It’s hard to judge distance from photos, but I actually think that the photo of the president et al announcing the FDA news shows them sitting about six feet apart. I think they are dumb to do that without masks, but they are following their rules.
A lot of the elderly can barely afford nursing homes as it is. Meat cutters and packers will likely be replaced by robots in the future. I saw someone on TV say it was possible.
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It’s not in the news everyday because national journalism is about middle-school level name calling and finger pointing, which must be what sells ads. If some enterprising reporters would do better work on this I’d read it. WSJ had a long article this week (behind a paywall) on how the sudden global need took everyone by surprise.
Sure. There are other types of manufacturing and assembly that require the line workers to be elbow to elbow. That will vary hugely depending not just on industry but on setup within industries.
One of our key competitors uses almost no automation and instead has literally rows of hundreds of people working elbow to elbow to hand assemble most of their product. We are at the opposite end and use automated equipment with very few employees that operate, monitor and feed the equipment. Their setup is a Coronavirus nightmare waiting to happen. We’ve been able to reconfigure our work flow so that each employee is working in his/her own separate room. Same industry, different manufacturing setup and ideas about automation.
This is also why top down decisions about closures by industry may not be as helpful as instead giving requirements for spacing, ventilation, etc of employees.
Me too, and I’m twelve hundred miles from you. What is it with these guys? (And it is mostly guys.)
- Conventions and conferences.
- Festivals, although many are outside, so somewhat less risky than conventions or conferences held inside.
- Any performing arts or sports event that fills the venue with spectators or participants.
- College classes that fill their classrooms to full capacity (big lecture halls would be riskier for the students, but probably less risky for the instructor).
Would you include places that are open, but currently have very low use compared to normal? That would be things like any kind of mass transit (airplane, train, bus) that would be full if everyone went back to normal activity (but they may not if many still fear the virus).
I doubt the problems of increasing long-term care costs and stagnant wages will be solved soon, but I hope that isn’t a reason to blow off their relationship to the areas being hardest hit by the pandemic.
That’s you. There are many others who will be totally fine with having that information available, especially if it’s the difference between being able to attend a school, or an event, or even enter a foreign country.
But you’re right, where I live you don’t “automatically” become registered to vote while getting your driver’s license… but you can. The DMV provides that service. Which is why my state has one of the highest voter turnout rates in the country.
Sure. I’m just trying to think what would happen if we opened everything up. But you’re right that we should also consider whether certain businesses would succeed if we opened everything up.
If I were a restaurant owner whose restaurant (like most restaurants) depended on being completely full at certain times, like Friday and Saturday nights, I would be reluctant to open even if I was allowed to. Probably a lot of my erstwhile customers would be unwilling to sit in my restaurant if it was full, so it would never become full and I couldn’t make ends meet. When we open up, for the time being food service establishments are going to have to find some other revenue model; being full on Friday nights isn’t going to happen, at least for most of them.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/amazon-retail-hazard-pay-strike_n_5eac49b7c5b6995f14005a42
essential workers striking
https://www.thecut.com/2020/04/whole-foods-amazon-mcdonalds-among-coronavirus-strikes.html
https://abc7news.com/may-day-stirke-worker-strike-amazon/6142377/
https://abc7news.com/may-day-stirke-worker-strike-amazon/6142377/
Change “work” to “sit” and you’ve just described an air plane…
Going back to my list in reply #207 and your list in reply #191, many of those may not be very full if they were fully reopened, if many people were still afraid of the virus.
Not much of a strike. CNBC interviewed one organizer, and he admitted that only a few hundred employees signed up to strike (Target).
Bozo. He opened his restaurant today, in defiance of the governor’s orders. There were photos of people congregating outside the front doors. No masks and no social distancing. The state just revoked his health and liquor licenses. He says he’ll keep operating and pay the daily fine.
BB: not enough to impact those of us who depend on these services, at least not this time
During spring break and springtime are when everyone camps here at BLM or national/state parks.
Looks like instead, our neighbor put up a camping tent in their backyard last evening. Their kids were really excited!
In the New Jersey county where I grew up and where my sister still lives, and the other one next door where my brother lives and where I spent summers, they’re up to over 1 in 1000 dead of covid. That’s gotta be the stage where everyone knows of someone who died, not necessarily a friend but that guy who fixed your car or your friend’s father or your old high school teacher.
Ha, one guy (we’ll call him John) who agreed with the bozo opening his restaurant (on my Facebook page) turns out to be the husband of a woman who just asked a mutual friend to make masks for his entire family. The friend is annoyed that she’s going to the trouble for John. She says she’ll send him her ugliest mask.
Funny how Gov. Newsom’s hair hasn’t gotten any longer over the last six weeks.
Maybe he cuts it himself. My husband does. He hasn’t been to a barber in years.