Ah. Gotcha. We do know who can’t be teached.
My mom was telling me a lot of her friends have been calling about restarting their mah jongg and canasta games. They are also going to get their nails and hair done. She is just shaking her head.
She wants to stick around for as many years as possible.
The only thing I hate more than the inconsistencies is the conspiracy theories! And the media doesn’t help when they’re sloppy with reporting the numbers.
The Miami Herald did a superb job of bringing the whole Epstein case to the public’s attention, and exposing the DA in that case.,
Esptein would likely still be molesting young girls if not for them.
The media wasn’t sloppy in their reporting of the data.
The media can only report what is being reported by the states and the CDC, unless they investigate.
And it’s only because of the media investigating that we now know about the commingling of testing data.
@“Cardinal Fang” You had me up until the last sentence…
IMO, the health departments are responsible for the numbers, and their motivation, if anything, would be to discourage opening too soon. It’s the governors who are more likely to use a number that supports their agenda.
I went to the store today for our final time in at least three weeks. Everyone was wearing a mask and politely social distancing as before. One older lady had her mask around her chin (not over her mouth and nose). She started to smile at me, but I just turned away in a “busy” fashion. No need to confront as far as I’m concerned. Perhaps she has a medical condition or she could even be early stage Alzheimers like my MIL was and “change” was tough for her. Even if absolutely nothing was wrong and she just didn’t like the mask, I still felt no need to confront her. She was one person out of several - not crowded, but several.
The store was still out of a fair number of things like TP and many cleaners, plus a lot of specific foods in the center aisles and frozen veggies. We found enough of what we needed for the most part - only missing 3 or 4 things on our list and we can work around those.
Now we’re completely avoiding all outside contact for two weeks prior to heading to FIL’s to celebrate his 92 birthday and be there for him on the first anniversary of MIL’s death (the day after his birthday). We want there to be zero chance of bringing the virus to him. We’ll be bringing food we already brought (frozen or shelf stable). The car is gassed up already.
We’ll still be out on the farm working and H is still going out in the field doing his engineering work, but it’s just him and an empty building lot of some sort - no other humans. All of his meetings are now via phone or zoom. He had to insist on it for a couple since our county has opened up for such things, but others complied. One even told him thanks for insisting as he didn’t want to meet in person either! (Sometimes it takes just one to speak up.)
Interestingly enough, H called me at his first job site. He had to pass through a local tourist town and said there were a lot of people out and only one mask being worn, by a pizza guy.
If the tidal wave is out there, it’ll be coming. I’ll be happy to miss it. Even if it doesn’t come, we don’t want to take the chance for FIL and we want H to share the upcoming time with him.
Are you suggesting “Indian Country” is offensive?
This says not.
https://www.newsweek.com/indian-country-slur-trump-1479399
I don’t mean in the case of conflating the tests. I agree with you there. I just mean, in general. Some state variations are spelled out on their websites, but the media doesn’t bother to understand that level of detail. They just pull numbers from Johns Hopkins, most likely, and don’t try to understand the state variations.
For example, some states are reviewing death certificates from earlier in the year to identify previously unreported covid deaths. Their website clearly states how many of the deaths reported each day are due to a correction to prior deaths, but the media just reports X state has seen an upward trend in new deaths, even if the actual daily deaths have been steady or decreasing.
FWIW, there’s no difference in the two sides. Both say she wasn’t doing what the upper crust wanted her to do. She wanted to do A. They wanted her to get approval for A (and probably declined it). She didn’t want to do B and was willing to lose her job over it.
The nitty gritty is what both sides say A and B were and how important those were. An independent investigation is warranted indeed (vs any news article). It would be interesting to see what they find.
The IHME charts have been updated again. They’ve added tabs to each of the charts to show a comparison of states on a per capita basis. Interestingly, the projections show steadily decreasing cases and deaths through July for all states, with the exception of Arizona.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/arizona
And many others say it is. It’s also controversial within the Native American community, differing often along generational lines.
So it behooves “public spokespeople” to be careful, if they care about offending people. Which many do not, clearly. Out of ignorance usually, because I’m hoping not out of malice.
https://www.indianz.com/News/2018/08/16/indian-native-or-indigenous-which-one-wo.asp
https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/native-american-vs-indian-_llUK00r1EionG_T5_LgRA
https://www.insider.com/native-american-offensive-racist-things-2020-1
Are you saying that public health departments decided to change their reporting, to silently add serological tests to the PCR test reporting, and were not directed to do so by political officials? That makes no sense to me. Do you have any cites to articles that you recommend I read to educate myself about this?
No, that’s not what I’m saying at all. That’s the opposite of what I’m saying, actually. You said, conflating the tests “misleads any public official who is relying on the information.” You misquoted me, but I was suggesting that it’s unlikely the public health departments misled any public official. It’s much more likely IMO that the public official (governor) is the one who made the decision to use misleading data.
Here is what I actually said…
Re: PCR tests.
“Currently infected” might be read as sick, infected, shedding virus, needs to isolate.
Might be more accurate to say “recently infected” and the test is detecting virus litter.
???
That’s a better way of saying it. The distinction doesn’t matter for what I was saying, though: no jurisdiction should add serological test results and PCR test results together. It’s misleading.
I’m sorry I misinterpreted what you said, @momzilla2D. Above is your direct quote. I agree that public health departments would be likely to want to discourage opening too soon. But I’m still not quite sure what you are saying here.
The public health departments would not want to put out the numbers that added serological and PCR tests, because (1) that would be misleading and (2) it would tend to support too early re-opening when public health officials oppose too early re-opening. But these misleading numbers are coming from public health departments, aren’t they? That makes me believe the public health departments have been instructed by elected officials or political appointees to fudge the numbers.
Update from my daughter who lives in Copenhagen: next week her company is permitted to have 75% of the work force report. Last week and this week it was just 50%. Restaurants are starting to open. She wants to go to Noma, a very expensive restaurant she would not patronize otherwise, but they will be doing outdoor dining only, and serving burgers, which she can afford.
She’s also looking forward to taking in some tourist spots since they will be less crowded. Museums will be opening soon, which is earlier than previously announced. Movie theaters had opened last week.
She said it feels like they are back to normal.
Meanwhile:
Reopening Reality Check: Georgia’s Jobs Aren’t Flooding Back
… the opposite, in fact.
“The state’s persistent unemployment numbers suggest that government restrictions aren’t the only cause of skyrocketing layoffs and furloughs — and that the economy might not fully recover until consumers feel safe.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/21/georgia-reopening-coronavirus-jobs-273070
Exactly. Yes. I agree with everything you said here^. The only part I disagreed with was in an earlier post, where you said, conflating the tests “misleads any public official who is relying on the information.” I do not believe the public official was being mislead, but rather was the one doing the misleading.
i.e., public official = governor
My province (Ontario) has announced that there will be an independent public inquiry into LTC deaths. Roughly 80% of our deaths have occurred in LTC and senior residences. An article in our paper outlines part of what went wrong: