San Diego County reports a lot of statistics but since the county is 3.3 million population, it’s not too useful personally. There’s a chart of cases by zip code, but no specific about those cases.
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I live in MD also but in a county with a lot more cases than MDJoe. In my county, information is broken down by zip code, and we also have age group, race, sex, and percentage of deaths in each age group. My county also reports by nursing home, how many positive cases and how many deaths. No personal information is given as to how any of the positive cases might have contracted COVID. In my county, my zip code has the highest number of cases (362, with 114 per 10,000 people) and the zip code next to mine has the next highest. My county has 3357 cases, and of those 423 cases are in nursing homes, with 92 deaths. 22 of those positive nursing home cases were in my zip code (at one facility) with 2 deaths. So in my zip code, the majority of positive cases are not in nursing homes. However, when looking at the data, while nursing home patients are only 12% of positive cases in my county, they account for 61% of the COVID deaths.
San Diego’s stats are much like Illinois.
Lots of confirmed positives in the 20-59 age group — almost the same in each age group (grouped by decade).
Deaths are concentrated in the over 80 group. Next, over 70. Next over 60.
For now, for last several months, we have been diligently doing with the great support of those in our lives. To do so for the next year, next couple of years, yes, it would be a problem, especially if it is no longer the norm. We would not be able to work, socialize, see family in usual settings.
We would have to make the decision to withdraw from a lot of activities and friends contact. For some folks, the decision is to do so because the risks are too great. But even they are balking. DH’s aunt is in late 80s, and wants to enjoy her friends , family , activities for her last months, years of her life. She does not feel the extra time gained with it if she has to continue The way things are. She wants to hold her great grand babies, be at family gatherings, go to church. She doesn’t want to end her life the way she has been living it lately.
For us, the decision is not so drastic. We are younger, do not have as serious health issues. Do we want to recede from life this next year? We are at that cusp where we are more endangered than endangering by not socially distancing. Those dear to us who we would endanger , like our aunt, does not want us to avoid her, socially distance.
So as things open up, the question for us is how much risk should we undertake? Stay away from anyone not quarantined, avoid any crowded venue.
I don’t think we shall be continuing much longer the way we have been distancing and quarantining. How much will we take up if another wave hits this fall as predicted? I don’t know yet. It was pretty easy for us to socially distance, limit contact for now. To continue, I don’t know.
From http://dph.illinois.gov/covid19/covid19-statistics , the breakdown by race and ethnicity:
Percentage of IL population
White Black Hisp Asian
76 15 17 6
61 (non-Hispanic)
<pre><code> Percentage of COVID-19 confirmed cases
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Age White Black Hisp Asian Left blank
<20 9 12 43 2 29 ( 6897 total)
20-29 15 15 37 2 27 (17537 total)
30-39 14 15 37 3 26 (18581 total)
40-49 14 15 38 3 26 (20254 total)
50-59 20 18 30 3 25 (19763 total)
60-69 26 20 21 4 25 (13651 total)
70-79 32 24 15 3 23 ( 7563 total)
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=80 42 17 9 3 26 ( 7700 total)
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<pre><code> Percentage of COVID-19 deaths
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Age White Black Hisp Asian
<20 33 33 33 0 ( 3 total)
20-29 0 45 50 5 ( 20 total)
30-39 8 40 46 5 ( 78 total)
40-49 9 33 50 5 ( 163 total)
50-59 21 36 35 4 ( 415 total)
60-69 33 37 24 4 ( 864 total)
70-79 41 34 16 5 (1174 total)
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Note: “left blank” is only about 2% of deaths but 26% of confirmed cases.
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Tell your friend that many hotels take dogs. Nearly all Best Westerns and La Quintas take dogs, at least if they’re not huge. I have driven much of that drive with D3 and her dog and we simply try our best to plan ahead. Imagine how far you might go, give yourself a pillow in either direction, and use google maps for hotels along the way. You can check for pet friendliness right on the info there. Then write that info down on a piece of paper, along with the hotel phone numbers, because you never know if you’ll be tired, in the middle of nowhere, with little to no cell service to do anything but call. Yes, I’ve taken too many road trips but I kind of miss it now.
Interesting that in other areas, the median age for covid deaths has been reported to be about 82, but I can see at a glance that the median age in Illinois is somewhat younger, somewhere in the mid-70s. That is also true in my area, Santa Clara County, California…
A 75- or 76-year-old does not seem so old, to me, and yet half of the victims are younger.
What does this have to do with individuals choosing not to to follow a private company’s or a local government’s requirement that masks must be worn in stores? Your argument here is that local governments will flaunt other state and local government orders because other state and/or local orders were not enforced. None of this argument has to do with individual actions.
Just another silly partisan convoluted argument.
And if you want to get into the State of California not enforcing laws as somehow being causation for individual behavior, I suggest that you also look at the record of the federal government in not enforcing laws on the books over the past few years.
You can’t get the virus from ingesting droplets. It’s not a food born or food spread illness. It affects the respiratory system, not the digestive system.
Every registered voter in Colorado gets a ballot sent to their home address. You can fill out the ballot and mail it or deposit it in any ballot box in the state and it will get to the right clerk to record the votes. Easy. The boxes are all over the place, but rec centers, at bus and rail stations, police stations, libraries, on corners down town. You sign the envelope and they scan for a signature match. Is there fraud? Maybe but no more than with other methods of voting.
For big elections (November in even years or for state elections) you can go into election places and vote in person. If you vote twice, one will be cancelled. Everything is on bar codes. I get an email when they accept my ballot, which is sometimes the same day and sometime a few days later.
For absentee voting, you can get ballots sent out of state. For homeless people, there are centers for them to vote. It is so much easier than other methods, and I think we’ve tried them all - precinct, early voting in grocery stores and malls, electron booths all over the state (disaster), caucuses (disaster). This mail voting is the easiest. Biggest complaint was you didn’t get an “I voted” sticker, so now they put one in with the ballot.
I thought for absentee voting, you only have to affirm that you cannot vote on election day (military, hospitalization planned, out of state). I don’t think they can refuse you for covid quarantine but just don’t say that’s the reason. However, there is sometimes a date by which you had to apply for the absentee ballot and that may have passed. I think that was the issue in Wisconsin, that people couldn’t apply for absentee ballots so close to the election, and no one realized the danger of in-person voting with covid until the date had passed.
Can you explain your reasoning for this “lab accident” hypothesis? My DH was on one of the sequencing teams and showed me public data proving that the virus evolved naturally from a similar bat virus or viruses.
That’s interesting ours came with a page of instructions that told you to check off “temporary illness”.
If I lived in a state with the normal strict rules, I would just claim a temporary illness - even if my illness happens to be hypochondria.
Wow, the state of Georgia is really cooking the books with their reporting data. They report Total Tests and Confirmed COVID-19 Cases.
So, you could just divide Confirmed Cases by Total Tests, to figure out how many have tested positive for having the disease, right? And if you wanted to know the positivity rate for today, you could divide the Confirmed Cases for today by the Total Tests for today, to find out whether the number of positive cases was trending up, an ominous trend, or down, a good trend, right?
Not so fast. Total Tests is all the tests, both the molecular tests to see if someone has the disease right now and the antibody tests to see if they’ve had it and recovered. But the Confirmed COVID-19 Tests is only the confirmed molecular tests; a positive antibody test is not included in this number.
They’re equally sleazy with their hospitalization numbers. Instead of having hospitals report how many people are currently hospitalized for covid, they just count someone as being hospitalized if they were hospitalized when their positive test comes back. Same for the ICU numbers: if you show up at the hospital with covid, are admitted, get a positive test, and then later get worse and get put in the ICU, you do not count as being in the ICU in their numbers.
They’re just shameless.
Illinois numbers show a large disparity by race and ethnicity (see reply #4364 at http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/22827161/#Comment_22827161 ).
What would be interesting to know is how much this is related to income level and type of job. I.e. break down COVID-19 cases and deaths by:
- income level
- ability to sustain loss of job or income (i.e. whether one has a choice of leaving the job if it poses what one personally considers an unacceptable health risk)
- ability to social distance on the job (including working remotely)
- whether other measures to reduce the risk of virus spread were taken on the job (e.g. providing and using PPE).
It would not be surprising if black and Hispanic people who bear more of the COVID-19 disease and death burden in Illinois are more likely to answer “no” to the last three factors.
Non-white people also appear to be very underrepresented among those protesting additional government restrictions relating to COVID-19.
I haven’t heard of this. It sounds like mentally ill, on drugs, or homeless people don’t have a place to relieve themselves or are so mentally out of it that they end up going on the street. Is that the case? If so, why don’t they make sure those people have a place they can relieve themselves so they don’t go on the street? Helping the homeless somehow would seem to solve a lot of this problem. maybe I am not understanding the situation. it sounds like some are advocating for arresting people for not having access to a bathroom. I don’t understand the situation, obviously. Where should these people relieve themselves? What would possibly make a person do what these people are doing besides a serious issue indicating the need for medical attention or some type of help?
That’s exactly what was discovered when UCSF tested as many people in one Mission District census tract as they could get. The testees were 38% white, 44% Latino, 11% Asian. No white person tested positive (not even one), a few Asians tested positive, 95% of the positives were Latino. The people who tested positive were almost all low-income residents who’d been financially harmed by the lockdown and couldn’t work from home. The people who did not test positive had, on average, much better financial circumstances, and IIRC the majority of the negatives could work from home.
The testees were also tested for antibodies. Those results have not been released. It’ll be interesting to see how many people, and which people, have antibodies.
But isn’t disability a choice to get an absentee ballot? All voters have been encouraged to use that reason and vote absentee ballot in my area.
There’s a practical difference between a store enforcing a “no shirt, no shoes, no service” policy and enforcing a mask ordinance. Except maybe in shore areas, you’re just not going to have that many people violating it–and I’m still not sure that enforcement is all that uniform.
Tons of people are violating no-mask ordinances in some areas, and more of them have adamant objections to the policies than people tend to to standard, minimal dress codes for entry.
Unfortunately, another practical difference is that masklessness is more of a public health threat than not wearing a shirt in a store. But I don’t think the answer is expecting stores to rigorously enforce policies, which would be impractical. Responsible stores should have masks available at the door, and someone stationed to tell people coming in that they have to wear a mask to enter. But masks are also really easy to take off, or to wear in a way that renders them useless. I guess you could have a roving employee patrolling the store to ensure compliance, but frankly, I think that kind of police-state environment would turn off even customers who are wearing masks. And I just can’t imagine getting to the level of “Pull up that mask over your nose,” and “Ma’am, pulling down your mask when you’re talking to someone defeats the purpose.” And that’s not even getting into the issue of people with disabilities (I’m not convinced that requiring people who can’t wear a mask to use curbside pickup would be kosher in ADA terms, especially in places that explicitly exempt people with medical issues from wearing a mask).
To me, the solution has to be police handing out frequent fines-including in stores-- in order to give people an additional reason to comply. That would, I think, bring the numbers of violators down enough that stores would be able to pick up the rest of the slack.
Most states have suffered enormous financial losses due to the pandemic and now are facing budgetary catastrophe. Unfortunately, Public services such as police will be cut, so I rather doubt they will have the resources to engage in mask patrol. I am merely hoping they retain the resources to address violent crime.
I believe this holiday weekend was a turning point for many. My area was filled with parties - homes with a dozen cars parked on the street. The news showed mobbed boardwalks and beaches across the country. If there is going to be a big increase in cases due to behavior when would we likely see it?
Two weeks out?