You’ll have to do a little better than quoting from a non-peer reviewed paper out of the “Ensenada Center for Scientific Research and Higher Education” in Mexico. It’s like my dad, sending me nonsense about a study out of Ecuador. “They had a 100% success rate treating COVID-19 with chlorine dioxide.” OMG.
I’ve had some spots that I was concerned about, and also one on DH that I was concerned about. The dermatologist took one look at them and said they were no big deal. But she spotted something else she wanted to remove and biopsy.
I’m also due for an eye exam, mammogram and bone density test.
I’ve never seen this eye dr or her office before, so I have no idea how the office is laid out or how careful to expect them to be. For now, I’m waiting.
My breast center stopped doing screening exams in March and just started making appts for them last week. Not sure how I feel about being that up-close and personal with the tech. I’d have less issue with the bone density, but I’d rather get both done at the same appt.
DH has a repeat prostate biopsy scheduled for next week. He’s keeping that appt, altho he’s not without trepidation. The dr’s office in inside the hospital, so waiting in your car isn’t an option. All people entering the hospital will have temp checks, and that’ll be repeated at the dr’s office.
Yeah, that’s certainly your right, to not own a gun and to solely depend upon the police.
I haven’t yet figured out how to get a police officer to fit in my pocket for that moment my life might depend on it though. I certainly have the means to protect my family at home as when trouble strikes the police are at least minutes away.
I just thought the mask vs gun quote was interesting.
Understood, I guess the nerve I was referring to was more the other responses. I see you see value in owning guns and have them at home. I assume you would also see their value in protecting you. That was my real message.
I’m middle of the road too. I see value in masks. I wear them when required. I don’t really see the value in wearing them otherwise.
About police protecting you when needed, I happen to know many police officers quite well, a few within my immediate and extended family.
I am sure many on here must have heard this saying, which is actually very popular among the police officers I know: “When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.”
Gun violence in the US is sufficiently low that I am not overly concerned about it. Sure, we could do better, but with no more than approximately 0.004% of the population of the US dying from gun homicides annually, there are bigger fish to fry in my opinion.
We’ve veered quite off topic.
As expected, this thread is now just a proxy for partisan political differences, reflecting the fact that COVID-19 is now a partisan political issue rather than a public health issue.
Agreed, but this is a natural consequence of government taking over more and more of civil society.
Effectively shutting people up in their homes, preventing normal education for millions of children, causing 36 million people to be unemployed, and in general mandating measures that have never before in the history of the world been mandated - all in the face of a disease that our own CDC estimates has a 0.26% IFR - are inherently political issues, not public health ones.
People are not “effectively shut up in their homes.” Please don’t exaggerate. That does not help the discussion. And please quote only from peer-reviewed studies.
PLEASE STOP! Even in a lightly moderated thread, I am guessing that political arguments and gun control debates could get this thread shut down.
Thanks in advance.
I can’t decide if this is just extremely disrespectful to the people who will be diagnosed this week (and the next and the next and the next) with COVID, to either die or be severely impacted, or if it’s just deliberately and completely disingenuous.
Being skeptical of what government is telling the populace is a healthy thing. Recognizing that science can be flawed is a healthy thing. We Americans value thinking for ourselves. After all, recall that the initial ‘best case scenario’ for COVID 19 deaths in the U. S. if strict mitigation was practiced was 1.1 million deaths. We were told hospitals were going to be overrun and unable to handle the crush. We were told there weren’t enough ventilators. We were told that the shutdowns were only to let the hospital systems gear up to handle the incoming rush of patients. We were at first told by Dr. Fauci that masks were not necessary. Now we are told that masks help stop the spread. Political leaders and even the modeler who predicted 1.1 million deaths in the U.S. don’t follow their own admonitions. Which businesses could remain open and which closed seemed arbitrary. (Pot shops open. Smoke shops closed).
So no, it’s not political. It’s those who question authority versus those who don’t.
So what? You found one scientist who disagrees with thousands. Doesn’t make him right and everyone else wrong. A top plandemic proponent is also an anti-vaxxer “scientist.” PhD and all. And she’s a nut job.
One of the new moderators is questioning if this thread should be shut down. CC has given you what you want, light moderation, so please don’t take advantage of it.
Agree! There is absolutely no reason gun control should have been brought into this discussion. I regret taking the bait.
Please show me a link to your claim of early predictions of 2.2 million dead in the US. Please also make sure these predictions came from reliable sources.
Not sure what you are talking about. Of the people who will catch C19 (diagnosed is a little problematic as testing is still quite limited), likely fewer than 1% will be severely impacted and some much smaller fraction of 1% will die. (My guess has always been in the 0.2-0.5% range, and now the CDC provides some support with its estimate of 0.26%.)
I do not consider having the equivalent of a bad flu, which maybe a few percent of infected people will suffer, to be “severely impacted.” For the vast majority of people, catching C19 will prove to be literally nothing, or at least nothing more than a mild inconvenience. Society in my view is not a civil pact to protect everyone at any cost from relatively normal risks.
This claim really bugs me. OF COURSE immunizations are down. A huge percentage of pediatricians have been closed for most preventative treatments. Parents advised not to bring their kids do the doctor unless absolutely necessary.
That doesn’t mean that MOST parents are neglecting immunizations. Unless you count anti-vaxxers which are growing in numbers because there are a lot of gullible idiots out there, and some are parents to young kids.
I saw a dad learning to skateboard with his 10-year old son, who’s quite good. He wobbled on that thing uncertainly. “Hey, the hospitals don’t need any more patients in ER” I laughed. “Future organ donor!” He laughed back. And kept on wobbling down the street. At least he was wearing a helmet.