^^^Last week, the LA County public health person gave some facts on pregnancies with COVID19. The number was small, I think, 34. But all were born healthy and COVID free.
The other consequence of hospitals not doing procedures and minimizing staff is that current medical students are not learning hands on. At one medical school, medical students are doing things like sewing masks or making calls to nursing home patients to keep their spirits up. They are not doing the clinical rotations they should be doing to learn. I fear we will graduate under-prepared doctors in a year or two.
Because guns kill other people? Not as many in this year as Covid, but they’re still a leading cause of death too. The only person I know personally who died from a gunshot wound was a kid from our church who was killed by a “friend” using a family’s gun. Thinking about it, I also know of a couple of suicides.
I know a few random “gun saved me” anecdotes are out there, but there are far more “friendly fire” gun deaths.
FWIW, before you place me on “a side,” we have guns. We hunt and kill varmint critters on our property. We don’t need oodles, handguns, nor an AK 47. I’m pretty sure I’m on “the middle” side (for many topics actually). It’s weird having the feeling that one must go one way or the other.
What medical school is this? My lad’s school changed to put a bit of “fact” learning up front via online classes and now is putting them back into rotations. Rotations are shorter, but all still will fit into the schedule. Some of the fact learning classes were quite helpful to him - like the one on epidemics. Very needed info for tomorrow’s doctors.
I assumed all would be doing similarly? If not, I’m really surprised.
The other stuff you mentioned - was that volunteer work? It would have been at my lad’s place.
I learned that Vanderbilt, which I consider a top medical center, is not doing COVID-19 antibody tests because there is no reliable test (yet) to isolate COVID-19 antibodies from other coronavirus antibodies. Which means, one could test positive for coronavirus antibodies but not have been exposed to COVID-19 particularly. They are optimistic that a reliable test will be forthcoming.
I hear you. I guess I realize that most gun deaths, besides suicides, are criminals killing each other or law abiding citizens prayed on by criminals.
I never mentioned an AK-47 or Uzi.
I was playing off the fact that many would like to be able to provide for their own protection against criminals. Kinda like masks protect against bad things. It seemed like a similar enough situation. Obviously I touched a nerve.
I agree with this, and if you figure out how to do the eye doctor safely, please comment - I very much need an eye exam as well.
I think the issue with the cosmetic procedures is that they are less “urgent” and therefore could be postponed until there’s enough PPE for the medical procedures. Or are you saying that your area opened cosmetics but not the health side?
Additionally, in a sample study of 172 pregnancies where the mothers tested positive for Covid-19, 23% of pregnancies resulted in pre-term deliveries vs. 10% for non-infected mothers. In Covid-positive mothers–14% of babies had respiratory distress syndrome, 14% had pneumonia at birth, 11% had low birth weights and 3% were abnormally small for gestational age (typically a sign of placental insufficiency) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.11.20062356v2
If that is the case, we will see a statistically significant difference in outcomes based on what different states and/or municipalities implemented with respect to social distancing, SAH, mobility data, isolation measures, etc. So far, I have not seen any such statistical evidence; in fact, I have seen some limited evidence suggesting that there were no significant differences.
It is worth noting that the worst place to be during this pandemic has been in a nursing home, where SAH orders could only have had very limited, second-order effects (nursing home residents are already isolated, but are subjected to vectors of virus transmission primarily from essential workers caring for them).
It was pointed out to me that it was peculiar that I reported accurately that in this pandemic 0.01% of the population of the United States has died, while seeming to ignore nursing home deaths. Yes, as more than 50% of US deaths have occurred within the less than 2% of the population who are resident in long term care facilities. the overall death rate in the population so far has been approximately 0.02%.
As for the life expectancy of people in US long term care facilities generally, I found this study based on a national sample somewhat helpful:
The policy question, as opposed to the emotional one, has always been where limited resources resources should have been concentrated. It was known early on that median age of death in Italy, China and Spain (among other data) from C19 was very old, near to 80. Many people suggested that resources be expended to help those who were most likely to be affected adversely, only to be met by emotional rejoinders that “every life matters,” or some variation of “how dare you consign the elderly to a horrible death.”
And yet, of course, this is exactly what happened. Just as in Europe, median age of death from C19 is very elderly. It is ironic that going forward the economic hit that has been sustained will be felt most acutely by those who are the most dependent on a good economy (those who are past their productive years or who otherwise can not provide for themselves).
“I was playing off the fact that many would like to be able to provide for their own protection against criminals.”
That’s what the police are for. None of my immediate family members have ever owned a gun or felt the need to have a gun to “protect” themselves.
And back to this thread, no reason on god’s earth that “peaceful” protesters need to storm Michigan’s capitol with assault-style weapons (or any weapons for that matter). Likely the same people who refuse to wear masks in private stores. These are the people that we need protection from…
I think that makes sense. I’m not 100% confident in the sanitation at my eye doctor. I’m particularly concerned about the optometry section of the room where I never see any attention to hygiene with all the touching of everything and close-spaced sitting for glasses fitting and repeated use of random rags. However, I don’t know what they’ve done since the pandemic.
I think that I could maybe go for the exam, and then just order last year’s frames with whatever I need, and forgo the “fitting”. If they’re a bit cockeyed, I’ll deal.
Dentist-wise, I can’t see ever taking the kids back to our pediatric dentist, though I like her a lot. Their open-plan rooms and generally lax hygiene do not bode well for a new pandemic-approach. My periodontist and adult dentist, though, have sent out a lot of reassuring details (and I know their layouts also and they’re separate rooms with walls). So I guess I’ll graduate the kids to my dentist.
Dermatologist-wise, I have a weird spot and am due for a skin check. I wonder if telemedicine would be acceptable for that. Does anyone know?
Although I wear contacts, I like to have a pair of up to date glasses.
I ask the doctor to write out the prescription & I order from Warby Parker online. I love that I can try on 5 frames at a time in the comfort of my home.
So much less stressful (& less expensive) than ordering from his office.
Didn’t touch a nerve with me (we have hunting rifles). But it didn’t seem similar at all to me as I’ve never heard of a mask accidentally or intentionally killing anyone.
In fact, rather than touching a nerve, it seemed just like a silly analogy.
Exactly! There was another facebook meme similar to what was posted above about those who refuse to wear a mask for protection but insist on carrying a weapon for it. Then again maybe its because of this, at least maybe in Illinois:
Yes, and when I think about how the masks significantly help other people be protected from oneself, it seems to be somewhat the opposite of a firearm.
A telemedicine visit can at least let the provider look closely at the spot and then let you know if they have concerns about it that would need for it to be removed/biopsied. Good luck!
I had a telemedicine appointment with my dermatologist. But to determine what the spot was, a biopsy had to be performed so telemedicine didn’t substitute for in person visit.
