I would say a big part of that is due to population density. I would expect Maine to do much better simply because people are more spread out in many ways. It’s also why New York City was such a disaster.
There’s an awful lot of non-social distancing on the TV tonight. Plenty without masks on too. Wow. Guess we’ll see how the virus responds to this.
Wonder if any posters are advocating fining and/or arresting them, or at least denying them medical care should they get COVID.
Well its easy to social distance when you are surrounded by cattle. 
You have to avoid Bar Harbor in the summer, though. 
Most Maine Deaths are in southern Maine and Portland and the surrounding area has a higher pop density.
The NYS board of health now concludes that their virus infection estimates were off by a factor of ten in March. I suppose the good news is that means the virus is far less lethal, but it does not inspire confidence in NYS.
I don’t see this comment as clever or cute, and I sincerely hope that it is not meant that way. I am very worried about this aspect of these protests.
Ditto my previous comment. I don’t see this posting as clever or cute, and I sincerely hope that it is not meant that way. This isn’t funny.
So, here was a fun (sarcasm) thing that happened tonight. We had walked across the street to the Gulf side of our barrier island on the West Coast of Florida to watch the sunset. We take chairs and sit out and visit with our friends. We are all still social distancing even though that requirement was removed from our beaches yesterday. It’s funny how quickly new habits are formed. Anyway, our friends who live in our same building were a bit ahead of us when we walked back across the street. A car slowed in the parking lot, and we could see someone saying something to the husband/dad. We assumed they were asking a question or for directions, etc. NOPE! Instead this woman (who was SMOKING) had rolled down her window and was berating our friend for his reckless behavior and lack of responsibility/consideration because he was not wearing a mask!
We have no mask-wearing requirements here in Florida.
EDITING for clarity. This woman was alone in her car and smoking. She, herself, was not wearing a mask. She rolled down her window to yell at our friend.
The two posts are perfectly legitimate comments given what has been posted previously on this thread.
Smoking and wearing a mask?
No. She was driving her car and smoking. She was alone in her car. Not wearing a mask. But rolled down the window to share her views.
I’m not saying that the posts are not “legitimate” (whatever that means), but instead that the posts, are not funny, clever or cute.
@OneMoreToGo2021, Thanks for the numbers from the three Florida counties.
Last night you said the infection fatality rate for the entire US was 0.25%. I pointed out that if that were true, 108% of the residents of Queens must have been infected with covid. You replied that New York City’s IFR was high, but it was balanced out by IFR’s elsewhere that were lower. I asked, where?
Now you give me 0.31% for Miami-Dade, 0.32% for Broward, 0.52% for Palm Beach. I must point out that none of those numbers is smaller than 0.25%. If you average a bunch of numbers all of which are bigger than 0.25%, you’re not going to get 0.25%. What’s the part of the country that has an IFR less than 0.25%, and what makes you believe that?
The Florida test results say:
Many of the antibody tests available right now yield a significant percent of false positives, yet this preliminary report doesn’t appear to adjust for that, or even tell us about the performance of the test. And if a person has one negative test and one positive, they call that person positive. If these tests are producing false positives, that would make the calculated IFR too low.
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/action/report_archive/serology/serology_20200529.pdf
A Lake of the Ozarks partygoer has tested positive. He arrived on Saturday and was tested on Sunday.
Reminder: the virus is sneaky. Probably some protesters are infected, but not everyone who is infected spreads the disease. We know one Lake of the Ozarks person is infected, but not everyone who is infectious spreads the disease.
Those who hope that teenagers don’t spread the disease got some bad news with those Lovett School graduates, who seem to have passed covid around at graduation parties. But, still, most people who are infected don’t infect anyone else, apparently, according to current knowledge.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/health/coronavirus-cancer-heart-treatment.html
Talks about patients too fearful to get bloodwork during chemotherapy or to accept a liver when they need a transplant. Two people in the article need liver transplants, were offered a liver in the last 2 months and turned it down because they were so afraid of COVID. And actually what it seems most people are afraid of is not just getting the disease so much as getting it, getting sick enough to have to stay in the hospital, and dying alone without ever seeing their family again because no visitors are allowed.
"At the University of Rochester Medical Center in Rochester, N.Y., emergency room visits dropped by 50 percent, and many of the patients who do come have waited too long to seek treatment. They “are presenting late with strokes and heart attacks,” said Dr. Michael Apostolakos, the system’s chief medical officer. “Or they’re not showing up until they can barely breathe from heart failure.”
In Newark, emergency medical services teams made 239 on-scene death pronouncements in April, a fourfold increase from April 2019. Fewer than half of those additional deaths could be attributed directly to Covid-19, said Dr. Shereef Elnahal, president and chief executive of Newark’s University Hospital."
Correct, density in NY was a big factor. But the other factor was that millions of people come into NY from all over the world (especially Europe) and brought the virus. And there was NO testing. So the virus was circulating silently in February and most of March. I know so many people who picked up the virus in March before lockdown. The exponential spread was crazy. That’s why it’s insulting to hear “NY made a mess of this” from some posters (not you, per se). New York was a victim of a failed CDC testing process and the federal government downplaying this virus - plus their density. Also, in March we were all focused on surfaces - not airborne spread. This was another failure of messaging. More mask wearing and distancing and less wiping down mail and food would have been more productive.
Honestly I’m actually pretty impressed about how many people that are out protesting are wearing a mask. Remember it’s social distancing or mask… for folks that are actually in much graver danger by being outside during these situations, I’m impressed at how many I’m seeing that are actually wearing these masks. Greater that 75%. A hell of a lot more than we saw wearing at the Michigan State capital a few weeks ago during those protests - with their rocket launchers and machine guns. And no masks.