Coronavirus May 2020 - Observations, information, discussion

Different age groups? Israel’s new cases were linked to a single high school, the Denmark example you cite is age 2-12, so through what for us would be middle school. Can’t tell about Finland.

Finland opened primary and lower secondary schools (comparable to primary and middle schools in US) but kept upper secondary schools closed. They only opened up two weeks ago.

We spoke to our friend who lives in Denmark today. She’s American but has been there for almost 40 years and she said that there is quite a bit of virus around. She thinks that the schools were opened too soon.

@emilybee - I LOVE, LOVE my quarantine home. I may never go back to my other house. I HATE most of my neighbors, we are in active litigation with one, who assaulted my H, and most of the rest are just vile. My friends say that I haven’t sounded this relaxed in two years, since our neighbor issues began. I haven’t taken a Xanax since we came over here… Also, H is a hoarder and my sons are taking the opportunity to clear out a lot of stuff from the house. I am trying to re-finance but almost canceled due to the need to take interior photos. Son #3 told me today that the refi should be back on and what color would I like the walls to be.

@techmom99, You should sell the first house and live in the second house. My neighbors are fantastic and some of our closest friends now. I can’t imagine living anywhere with lousy neighbor - especially in a pandemic!

My next door neighbor and I have happy hour a few times a week. I sit on my deck and she sits on her lawn (her patio is on the other side of her house) and we have a drink and chat for at least an hour. We are about 30’ apart.

Really helps when you are staying at home to be able to enjoy time with a friend in person.

I haven’t seen my daughter who is a nurse in DC working with COVID patients since November. No idea when I will be able to see her. It’s really rough.

CA is not looking good. Its new cases are going up everyday. Today is over 3000 new cases, most of them in LA. Their death number could get to 600+ soon if they don’t do something soon.

@emilybee : masks are required, but compliance has been pretty bad, and the week before last, the government suspended the order for the week because temperatures were 100 + throughout the country, and up to 120 in some parts. People haven’t really gone back to wearing them (properly, at least), although the government is now promising more enforcement.

And to others who commented, yes, most of our cases have been in high schools, although that generally means 7-12th grade here. The elementary school set has only had a few cases so far, and no evidence of widespread infection among that cohort. Those are mostly cases where a parent tests positive, then they test the whole family and the kids test positive as well. Not clusters at the school linked to the kids.

I’m wondering if I’m not fretting about not seeing my kid because starting at the age of 6 we sent him to sleep away camp for 7 weeks for 8 years. Only had one visiting day (about 5 hours we’d be there) after the first 3 weeks. We weren’t even allowed to call until after the first two weeks, and then only once a week - which they didn’t encourage.

I haven’t seen my son in Michigan since February. He’s finishing up his quarter next week, and starting his summer job at (gulp!) a grocery store that serves a lower income community near his apartment. Someone has to do it, and I guess he can be that someone, but I wish he’d come home to California for the summer instead. I’ll see him after Thanksgiving.

I tell myself that younger people are at lower risk. If he gets covid he probably won’t get hospitalized. It sounds worse when it’s your own kid.

I would feel less concerned about not having seen my children since Christmas if I knew there were a time when I could see them again. Yes, life is always uncertain, but this feels more unpredictable and fragile.

Or oneself. None of the posters who say that COVID-19 is “no worse than the flu” (or similar statements that it is not worth worrying about) have indicated that they (or their younger kids/relatives) intend to get infected so that they can join the herd immunity that they advocate getting to more quickly.

@Midwest67 How are restaurants handling the back of the house?

The servers situation sounds difficult enough, and the requirement that servers change gloves after every visit to a table sounds unworkable. But how do people in a restaurant kitchen stay six feet from one another?

There is no way the employees at our local convenience store could stay six feet apart. The kitchen is tiny and the cash register is in the corner.

I 100% agree.

Don’t know why but I’m not worrying about my kid getting sick because he is WFH, not going out, except on walks, and always wears a mask. He saw a bunch of friends a few weekend’s ago by driving to where they live - he stayed in his car and they sat on their front stoops. They also do a lot of happy hours and pot lucks over FaceTime. And his gf lives with him and is WFH, too. So, he’s fine being at home. They also have a small deck outside their apt with a grill and they’ve started a veggie garden in pots. So they can be outside and not have to go anywhere - which is good when you live in an urban area.

He does miss going into his office, but that’s not going to happen until at least September and they could work from home before CV19 if they wanted .

Again? Let it go.

I don’t see anything in the speech recommending shelter in place orders or shutting down international travel. The WHO never recommended aggressive actions until it was too late.

100% agree with you that some posters have been saying for the last 6 - 8 weeks that CV-19 was no worse than the seasonal flu. Do you think they will ever admit that they were wrong? 105,000 deaths and counting with extreme social distancing and the closing of all non-essential businesses.

Had we listened to them, we would likely have 500,000 deaths by the end of summer, if not more. smh…

That’s a misunderstanding… of me, anyway.

I don’t ‘intend’ to get infected, I’m just not going to live a stunted life because I ‘fear’ being infected.

One of our children lives in town, another is about 50 minutes away. They’re welcome to come visit and do. They’re both: reasonably intelligent, wash their hands, don’t love on the common surfaces, and if I catch it from sharing a meal with them, I really don’t give a rat’s anymore.

Even at my age, there’s more to life than dying while fearing something that may never come.

If WHO had recommended Chinese style lockdown, what would you have said then?