Coronavirus May 2020 - Observations, information, discussion

Wow, this is sad. “There is no safe way for singers to rehearse as a group until there is a vaccine and a 95 percent-effective treatment for COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, and it could be two years before both happen, a national panel of music and medical experts told choral directors this week. That message, delivered in a webinar on Tuesday night, sent shockwaves across the global music community.”

https://www.pressherald.com/2020/05/09/choirs-may-have-to-remain-silent-long-after-society-reopens/

Good they are reacting quickly and their testing and tracing capabilities are top notch- unlike here.

‘Seoul shuts its bars and nightclubs after a new cluster emerges.’

“The mayor of Seoul, South Korea, ordered all the city’s bars and nightclubs closed indefinitely on Saturday, after the discovery of a new cluster of dozens of coronavirus cases in a country that for weeks had reported around 10 new infections a day.”

“The mayor, Mr. Park, said that nightclub patrons who had failed to wear face masks had put at risk South Korea’s thus-far successful efforts to bring the coronavirus under control.
“Just because of a few people’s carelessness, all our efforts so far can go to waste,” he said.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/09/world/coronavirus-news.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

@MaineLonghorn - that article about choirs makes me sad, too. I’m surprised at how much I miss singing hymns at Sunday worship services.

Drug cocktail showing great promise:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/health/coronavirus-triple-therapy-hong-kong-health/index.html

I read the choir article a couple of days ago. It made me very sad. Our family was very involved in Civic Theater productions for many, many years…and I see that as problematic too. And civic orchestras, bands, and other performing groups. The rehearsals are one issue. The audiences to attend live performances…an additional concern.

It just makes me sad.

Presumably that means the death of Broadway, too

I can’t be the only one wondering what, exactly, “95 percent effective treatment” means. Sounds like a high bar.

I wish there was a “sad” button to click to respond. We travel south to see shows in NYC every year, multiple times a year…or at least, we did. Everything is so messed up now (understatement, I know).

Yep, same in my state as well. The long term consequences from this illness should most certainly be emphasized.

The choir news reminds me that one of the earliest clusters of COVID was in a choir group in Washington state.

I posted the choir article with a couple of quotes on my Facebook page. I’m trying to get through to members of my parents’ church how foolish it is for them to meet, but I doubt it will do any good. I told my sister we HAVE to hold the line and not let my mom and dad attend. Sigh.

Same here. I’m going to miss our trips to NYC. The broadway shows, the restaurants, the shopping. I hope one day it will recover, but doesn’t sound promising in the next couple of years.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/04/california-offers-senior-care-facilities-contracts-to-accept-covid-19-patients/

Good grief! No wonder there is so much death in the nursing homes. The state is encouraging nursing homes and board and care facilities to take COVID positive cases. This despite the calls from doctors saying that this is medically unsound. Any nursing home or board and care that does this, deserves to be sued for all they are worth if other patients die. The state is encouraging it through a hefty daily payment.

Knowingly introducing the virus into the most vulnerable population is nothing short of a criminal act.

So much for ‘science’ being behind state decisions.

Thank you for this post. So succinct and clear. I appreciate all your fact checking, including on my own posts.

https://apnews.com/7dd437f5122ddb940796c14d26184bd4

WHO says there’s no need to close down the live markets in China that may have been the source of the pandemic.

Really? Let’s weigh the inconvenience to some in China versus a world wide pandemic with hundreds of thousands dead and a global depression that will leave millions more in poverty.

Unless, of course, the source was the Wuhan laboratory.

It was mentioned upthread. The actual letter from 5/1 at https://www.cdss.ca.gov/Portals/9/CCLD/PINs/2020/ASC/PIN_20-17-ASC.pdf says that “Preferred facilities are those that are currently empty, have a completely separate structure from any other residents, or contain solely COVID-19 positive residents.”

Of course, the optics are bad, whether or not any such contracts are made (and, given the optics, it is unlikely that any facilities would enter such a contract, except maybe empty ones desperate for the money if there are any such).

At the beginning of all this, the county set aside a big hotel at the fairgrounds for quarantine for COVID 19 cases to much media fanfare. I haven’t heard a word about it since. Then there’s the $1,000 per day inducement, which raises eyebrows.

So why would a facility test its employees and keep visitors out from seeing their loved ones in order to keep the residents safe and then turn around and admit a COVID patient?

Several days ago, I read the story of a nurse at a nursing home who died from COVID. Young woman. Her family is suing the facility because the facility admitted a 'prominent doctor who flew to LA from New York knowing he had COVID 19 and failed to tell people or protect them.

Short answer is, they won’t. It is pretty obvious from the actual document, but not the media coverage, that they are looking for facilities with space not shared with regular residents (as a practical matter, it is unlikely that any facility other than completely empty ones would possibly be interested).

I’ve been watching hospitalization rates and death rates in my county, Santa Clara, too. Hospitalization doesn’t lie. Like @calmom, I’ve been hoping to see decreases, and despairing that it’s so slow. I’ve been keeping a spreadsheet.

I have been seeing slow decreases. On April 1, there were 90 people on ventilators and 108 in acute care beds not on ventilators. Yesterday there were 40 people on ventilators and 64 in acute care beds not on ventilators. Progress!

I’ve been following the decrease in hospitalizations at Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit. I know someone who works there. When I started looking they had 400 plus patients with COVID 19. Yesterday they had 88.

It’s easy to follow. It’s on their coronavirus page. The stats for their systems other hospitals are there also.