I found wipes in kroger yesterday. One per customer
Because inquiring minds want to know?
No, but the wolfboy was scientifically verified.
Start a new thread!
I like that refillable Lysol spray cleaner as well but even that’s been pretty hard to find around here. I used to be able to buy the large refill container at Costco but haven’t seen that since March and have been buying individual bottles when I see a stray one at the grocery store, but it hasn’t been often.
Let’s just say that we wouldn’t want to happen for her. Her hospital is not known for being super supportive. And if they were we would want them to support the aids and other workers who aren’t as fortunate as our kid who is in a very different financial circumstance than most of her co-workers. Our family is making a donation to the hospital and asking that it be used to support staff who need it.
Make that twelve, but my parents have moved to LA so won’t be attending anyway. ?
Our hospitals have volunteers to pick up workers when they can’t get to the hospitals, usually during major snowstorms. They should have that set up everywhere. I think they do in places in California for the fires. Riots should be under emergency conditions too.
Do you live in an area like Washington DC, where 37% of households are car-free?
I agree it is very interesting and hopeful, especially if we can identify just what makes a person a super spreader. I don’t know that it will change what I do, though. I’m curious how it will inform your movements going forward.
I have heard prior to this article that most all people in China who were living with someone who had the virus also got the virus, no matter how careful they were, so I"m not sure about the idea that a lot of people don’t transmit it to anyone. I dont’ think that is backed up by data from China.
I just found this and it shows I’m wrong about the family transmission. It is low and got lower after people knew what early symptoms to watch for. However, mask wearning is a lot higher there than here, and so I don’t know how that would translate into the USA.
From back in March.
‘The transmission rate of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) was 1%-5% among 38,000 Chinese people in close contact with infected patients…The rate of spread to family members – the driver of the infection in China – was 10% early in the outbreak, but fell to 3% with quicker recognition and isolation. The overall numbers are lower than might have been expected, and an important insight for clinicians trying to contain the outbreak in the United States…most infectious at the onset of symptoms, when they spiked a fever and started coughing, but their ability to spread the infection dropped after that…’
There is also this.
Wearing Face Masks at Home 79% Effective at Curbing COVID-19 Transmission to Family Members Before Symptoms Emerge
This is a May 28 article. ‘The figures in China suggest that most of the person to person transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus responsible for COVID-19 infection, has occurred in families.’ So, it is taking about family transmission as the main form of transmission.
Didn’t they separate infected people from their households, in China? Maybe I’m confusing China with another country.
They did. You are right. But people spread it before diagnosed at times, I know that. Good question!
One: the US population in '68 was approx. 200 MM, so that comparison is flawed.
Two: the Hong Kong flu didn’t disappear after 1969. It’s still floating around, still killing those that are one respiratory illness away from the grave.
Three: the efficacy of the shut-downs is still up in the air.
No Denver, and it is only when there is a storm and public transportation is closed and sometimes streets are closed. They have people with 4 wheel drives that bring doctors and nurses to the hospital. Once a friend’s daughter was in the ICU during a major storm and the service helped bring her mom (the grandmother) to help the mom.
People are nice and helpful when they can be.
Lest anyone still fawn over Sweden’s reaction to the virus, they admit they’d do something else if they had it to do over.
"Sweden’s controversial decision not to impose a strict lockdown in response to the Covid-19 pandemic led to too many deaths, the man behind the policy, Anders Tegnell, has acknowledged.
Sweden has seen a far higher mortality rate than its nearest neighbours and its nationals are being barred from crossing their borders.
Mr Tegnell told Swedish radio more should have been done early on.
“There is quite obviously a potential for improvement in what we have done.”
Sweden has counted 4,468 deaths and 38,589 infections in a population of 10 million, while Denmark, Norway and Finland have imposed lockdowns and seen far lower rates.
Denmark has seen 580 deaths, Norway has had 237 deaths and Finland 320."
Quick question: Is the KN95 mask as effective as the N95 mask? What is the difference? TIA
My sister lives in Norway and there are many there who think Sweden got it right. As far as I know, Sweden’s hospitals have not been overwhelmed so unless there is a cure or a vaccine, then it is probably not really meaningful to compare deaths at this stage.
I found it very interesting that 16 out of about 1000 West Point cadets who came back to the academy recently for their graduation ceremony this month tested positive for COVID19. These are healthy young people who dispersed to various parts of the country when the academy closed due to the pandemic. About 1.5% of them actively have the virus !