Yes, that’s how I read it as well.
Yes, that is definitely what was meant.
We didn’t “finish the treatment” needed to get the virus down to the Rt that was necessary to reopen.
Ugh. Cases in Michigan are creeping back up, thanks to cases like this - 34 people (all aged 18-23) infected at a bar in East Lansing.
The health department had been notified that patrons of the bar were not wearing masks, and social media posts showed lots of young people in tight spaces.
Rats. I had gotten my hopes up that Michigan was on the downswing.
I meant bacterial infection. I posted before my morning coffee.-)
Bonnaroo, postponed from mid-June to late September, has been cancelled. Smart move. Nobody needs 80,000 people convening from across the country and living in a makeshift rock refugee camp during a pandemic.
Yep. As predicted, I was the only person – employee or customer – wearing a mask at the shooting range today.
No one gave me a hard time or anything, not even my big brother.
I still find myself standing “close” to people when having a conversation. Habit.
In the article about the bar in East Lansing with the covid outbreak, the bar proudly announced that henceforth it would mandate masks for all its employees. Oh, bully for them, they’re announcing that they will follow the law. Michigan requires everyone in indoor public spaces to wear masks. Not only that, businesses are required to supply them to employees.
In the same article, the bar whines that they can’t control how the patrons queue up outside. They can darn well control whether they let in patrons with no masks, though. I’m sympathetic, in general, to the idea that store employees have trouble denying entrance to unmasked patrons, but my sympathy evaporates when it comes to college bars. Don’t try to tell me a college bar doesn’t already know how to deal with ejecting unruly patrons. If that bar wanted to enforce masks and social distancing, it could.
Wow, I can not believe you actually posted that, @syballa. I guess crazy conspiracy theories abound, and am so glad my kids are not on the same campus as you. Do you actually think Cuomo was culling old people, too? Or maybe NJ residents? Or does just Texas qualify for that absurd claim? For the record, TMC and other hospitals here are treating plenty undocumented aliens. But carry on with your unsupported views …
I was giving ourselves until the 4th of July to see what was going to happen with the virus and then make the call as to how we would be responding.
I’m pretty sure I won’t need to make any changes. We’ll be waiting for the tidal wave to hopefully pass us by pretty much only sticking our necks out to grocery shop as needed - which thankfully is less this season with the farm giving us a good bit to eat. There will also be a risk when med school lad and his GF come for a week to visit. To see them we’ll take the risk as long as they’re symptom free at the time. We used to do Take Out fairly regularly. From the sounds of things, one change will probably be curtailing that a bit if not totally.
H and I will be going to a relatively local (an hour away) AirBnB with a view for our Anniversary in August, but I doubt that’s risky. We’ll have the whole place to ourselves and won’t arrive until well after previous renters have left.
We’ll also make some trips to FIL to be with him as he isolates and bringing him new food/supplies, etc, giving ourselves roughly two weeks of isolation time prior to visits there - just in case.
I wonder how long it will take for herd immunity.
I wonder that too. I guess the more cases we have sooner, the shorter the timeframe, whatever it ends up being.
I remember seat belts were even a debate topic in my high school speech class! My dad was an auto executive and we lived in an auto factory town for a while. The industry certainly thought seat belts were going to be an expensive pain, and as a bottom-line analyst, my dad thought the same. But he also saw the data. They saved lives. And he knew they were the right route to take and privately welcomed the
government mandates.
Definitely true, but it seemed the author was just pointing out the similarities in American psyche.
Powers That Be: “We see a danger and a solution to help.”
Most Americans (at first): “What??? No! There’s no problem and that’s certainly not a fix!”
More studies… then laws… over time most people come around and later think nothing of it, but it takes time. In the case of seat belts, it also seemed to take “big business is trying to hurt you” reasoning instead of “it’s really only going to help you.”
Overall an interesting read and I could identify with many of the stages having lived through the bulk of it.
I would love to see our managers and ownership enforce mask-wearing for all employees. (2 restaurants, NE Illinois)
I just don’t think it’s going to happen. The owners also told the managers to seat the restaurant normally and don’t turn anyone away. (Illinois opens up for inside dining, with capacity limits, beginning tomorrow).
Of course, they want both businesses to survive and are anxious for sales to return to normal or near normal.
I’m just sharing what is going on there, and my posting about it does not mean I am onboard. There is a LOT of financial pressure on businesses to survive, and that’s going to mean bending to the will of the guests in some cases.
I was telling one manager that people are not going to be rushing back to dine inside and if they see we are over-crowded? that could really hurt business and our reputation (social media!). He just shrugs and says he has to do what the owners tell him.
On the other hand, where H works (1 restaurant, NE Illinois), they are following the rules. That place is also a LOT busier and less desperate.
Time will tell I suppose. When I look at Sweden’s current two week trend on this site:
https://www.statnews.com/feature/coronavirus/covid-19-tracker/
it doesn’t look promising, esp since they’ve been doing this sort of hybrid from near the beginning.
The good thing is as medical knowledge and advances are happening, deaths are decreasing. But I’m not at all afraid of death from it - even if I were to draw the short straw and die. I don’t want the lingering side effects my lad (and others) seem to be dealing with. I live with enough side effects from other things.
@dfbdfb , glad to hear Alaskans are going to fill in for the missing tourists. You have such a short summer tourism season there isn’t a lot of time for businesses to make up the revenue they are losing now.
We are still considering a late summer Glacier/Banff vacation, we’ll see whether Glacier fully opens and whether Americans can travel to Canada.
The office staff at the dermatologists office were wearing their masks under their noses this morning. The doctors were wearing masks properly.
But would the restaurants risk losing their liquor or business license for non compliance? That has already happened in NJ and the threat is there in NY as well.
Please understand my response isn’t intentionally snarky or gotcha,
Roycroftmom, I’ve been reading your posts as accepting of the sad reality of a potential boomer remover plague, if saving boomers means we sacrifice the economy, and the education of our youth.
So clearly I’ve misunderstood??
A bit of education. The county executive of Harris County (wherein Houston is located) is a 29 year old Latina immigrant. The Mayor is a 65 year old African American male. Both are Democrats. The idea that anyone dealing with this pandemic is “culling” minorities or immigrants is incredibly offensive to them, and to the rest of us. Clear now?
What is going to happen when there is an outbreak of the virus in employees and/or customers that can be traced to where you work? Do the owners not realized they will have to close down, for a while, at the very least? That will not be good for their bottom line or the future of their restaurants.
But, the Lieutenant Gov of Texas did say that old folks should be willing to sacrifice themselves for their grandchildren’s economic well being.