Hi @oldfort – can you identify the store? This sounds like my kind of place! Thanks.
A major plus of owning an EV. 
Also, even from the little you know of me, I don’t think you could call me, ‘agreeable.’
To quote myself, my stockpile also includes special cat food and litter. I am on a FIFO system where I am never down to fewer than 3 trays of that food and 2 42-lb bags of litter. I think I will up that min. Off to Chewy I go… ?
We also where masks at the gas station, because we don’t can’t pump gas (eg: dont have to) so we need to interact through the window with the masked attendant.
I can’t imagine these stories of not-masked workers or customers. I haven’t been in any close situation in NJ where anyone didn’t have a mask on.
yesterday I did take-out pickup for the first time. The restaurant used an outdoor hut that food was brought to. (some people had ordered ahead like us, so no contact at all, some were apparently ordering on the spot). We all waited in a large semi-circle with plenty of distance to be buzzed (plastic wrapped buzzers handed out), in the parking lot. Everyone had masks. Once your buzzer lit up, you went to the table next to the hut where the food was set, left your buzzer, and picked up your order. Very careful and safe.
I haven’t been in a store yet, but by all reports, everyone wears masks. it’s just what you do. Plus it’s the law.
Wow. Here its all contactless pickup with no need for a mask. … No waiting outside. No buzzer handed to you. You pull up in your car having paid and given license plate ahead of time. Text when there. Pop rear. Worker puts Food in. Go. I’m kind of shocked this isn’t protocol everywhere with a parking lot.
Docs can tell peop!e to lose weight so they’re less likely to suffer ill effects of coronavirus. It didn’t work before Covid-19 to help people lose weight and there’s no reason to think it will help now. It has been established that losing weight is not just a matter of will power and people who are overweight and therefore at greater risk of dying if they are infected with Covid-19 do not deserve to die.
People have an ability to control their weight. They can make lifestyle changes and affect their weight. They may have a hard time putting forth the needed effort but it’s not impossible and it is a personal responsibility. I am overweight. I know this and have recently adjusted my diet and added some exercise. I started this before covid-19 became a real issue. I have dropped 6% in body weight in about 4 months. It’s not impossible for anyone. If you’re able to get more active and eat a little healthier you can surely lose some weight. No one likes to hear that they are holding themselves back but for many, in my opinion, they are doing just that.
I went on a hike with one of my sisters yesterday. It has been months since we’ve seen each other. It was really great to catch up in person. Neither of us wore a mask (outside) and yeah, we failed at social distancing too. No hugging or other contact but we were certainly closer than 6’ most of the time.
We ate at a restaurant with outdoor seating (first time since March). It was a fantastic weather day and dining outside was great. I would really like to see more of this become a normal here in the US. I’m sure in certain weather conditions it would be extremely popular. Disposable plates, cups and utensils were used. Server wore a mask. Tables were distanced. Absolutely there was still contact because of food delivery and payment. At this point I feel comfortable being out like this.
In the end I’m going to live a little. If I get it, I get it. I’m not trying hard to get it but I’m not going to try 100% not to either.
It was an amazing day. Some semblance of normal is good.
The doctors I know would not have been “in your face” about the weight. They would have addressed the various and specific concerns their patients have, and then gently addressed the ones they mis. Many folks have weight, diet, substance use and abuse issues that they may or may not acknowledge. Many of our adverse health conditions are exacerbated and even caused by those factors. Being overly direct about them doesn’t help most of the time and often causes even more aversion to seeking medical attention.
I know a number of friend and family member who have been obese for years and still are. They know it. Oh, they very well know it. The excess weight has caused and is causing joint destruction, gastric distress, breathing issues as well adverse self esteem. Most have no5 been able to sustain weight loss and until diet is controlled entirely for them, they will continue to be obese.
@MarylandJOE congrats on the weight loss. Are you male? Your experience sounds like it, but of course I don’t know for sure. My H can “adjust his diet” and he drops weight like a stone.
I on the other hand, already exercise extensively, walk miles every day, bike, kayak now that the weather is finally warm, do a weight routine twice a week, watch what I eat strictly–always as a norm, and do all that in order to maintain and not gain more. If I step off the extensive exercise and restricted diet for a moment, I gain. So more restriction and more exercise will be necessary. And I’m trying, but don’t make it sound at all easy or normal.
What I want to know is whether the issue is weight itself, or conditions often associated with it. I’m hoping it’s the latter. Besides being obese, I have excellent blood sugar, blood pressure, and other indicators of metabolic and cardiac health.
So I am hoping to get better information soon from the researchers. Is weight itself a cause, or does it correlate often for causes, but not itself be one. I think it would be much more helpful to be able to tell people–improve your blood sugar, blood pressure, and general cardiovascular health, and other risk factors, whatever weight you are. That is liable to lead to more doable changes.
Even though mine are good, I’m making extra efforts to up my cardio health, eat even more restricted, etc. At the same time I also know to not disorder my eating, either, as that could cause rebound issues. Knowing my metabolism, I may only lose a pound or two, but I am hoping that that will help should I get infected.
My main point is to remember that not all metabolisms work the same, which doctors are much more educated about now than they used to be.
Yes! And not all metabolisms even work the same in the same person, over time. Like you, I have an intense and consistent workout routine, but it still takes effort to refrain from gaining weight.
@maya54 yeah, I don’t think they have the space or bandwidth for that. Maybe a fast food place could. I do the curbside, placed in car for groceries and other things. But this didn’t feel any more dangerous than a delivery, and I am super cautious.
@garland, this is the Chinese grocery chain:
http://asianfoodmarkets.com/
Those stores are quite large, so you could find a lot of vegetables, meat, seafood, and of course Chinese food. We went to the one at Piscataway.
Interesting.
‘When 511 Epidemiologists Expect to Fly, Hug and Do 18 Other Everyday Activities Again‘
We went out to a restaurant last night to celebrate S’s graduation. First time since, I don’t know, maybe Valentine’s Day? Anyway, the restaurant only has outdoor seating, but they have a lovely large property on a river. They had about 40 tables outside, spaced quite far apart, about 10’. You did have to walk through part of the restaurant to get to the outdoor dining area, so you had to wear a mask until you got to your table. Wait staff, etc. all had masks or shields and gloves. Menus were disposable. It was a beautiful evening, and tables were full the entire time we were there. Everyone (staff and clientele) was in a great mood. We tipped very generously. It was great to get out, and we felt very comfortable with the set up.
@oldfort --thank you!
Here definitely not just fast food restaurants that work like this. It’s everywhere, including the small fancy places and the bigger nice restaurants. It’s simply expected that they do it. Maybe because this started when the weather was miserable here and no one wanted to have to hang around outside waiting for an order. In any event All have found the ability to do it to stay in business.
I think most people know by now what is considered high risk. Or they should unless not paying attention at all.
In my county:
“The county’s hospitalization rate compared to positive tests is now well below 1 percent, at .66 percent. Twelve people from Albany County are currently in the hospital, and the average number of new people testing positive daily is nine.”
“But McCoy cautioned that 20 to 29 year olds are now the group that is most consistently testing positive - meaning that young adults might not be getting as sick, but are likely spreading it to others.”
“It’s still there. People are still getting it. Please by all means be careful,” McCoy said at his daily press briefing Sunday.“
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Coronavirus-live-updates-State-taking-15323907.php