Coronavirus thread for June

Some possible good news
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-lilly-says-covid-19-treatment-could-be-authorized-for-use-as-soon-as/

My son has his first soccer practice tonight. The club guidelines that detail practice protocols makes what he’ll participate in this evening sound like tiptoeing around a ball in a phone booth.

I am afraid your repeated statements about no looting in NJ are not true.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/atlantic-city-looting-is-latest-blow-to-this-casino-town-how-it-unfolded-what-set-it-off/ar-BB14TsjO
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2020/06/01/trenton-lockdown-rioters-loot-stores-burn-police-cars/5306387002/

The CDC looked at a convenience sample of 382 service members on the USS Theodore Roosevelt, which had a big outbreak. I’d say the biggest takeaway is

MASKS WORK.

Wore a mask: 56% infected
Didn’t wear a mask: 81% infected

Many caveats apply. It was a convenience sample. People who wore masks may have also taken other measures to protect themselves.

Avoided common areas: 54% infected
Didn’t avoid common areas: : 67% infected

Observed social distancing: 55% infected
Didn’t observe social distancing: 70% infected

About one out of five who tested positive for COVID-19 said they’d had no symptoms.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6923e4.htm?s_cid=mm6923e4_e

So which will it be, shutting down again, field hospitals, or both?

Or the dreaded masks? But that’s so wussy.

“Will Humble, the state’s former health chief, told the Reuters news wire that a “cavalier” exit from a largely successful stay-at-home directive pushed infections up suddenly.”

“If Arizona does not require residents to wear face masks in indoor public spaces, Humble said, it will have to impose another mandate or start building field hospitals.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/10/coronavirus-update-us/#link-NYHRAK3DXBGRRNBQXAMHNEAO5Q

Garland wrote:

And then Cleodx replied:

As someone who grew up in New Jersey, near where Garland lives, I can testify that Atlantic City is neither a major NJ city nor a town in Garland’s area. I realize that New Jersey looks like a small state, and it is one, but the Northeast is densely populated. South Jersey cities are not thought of as “in the area” of the New York suburbs of North Jersey, any more than Philadelphia is “in the area” of New York City.

Um I felt that way about all of my own graduations too. I think it’s a stupid way to “ honor” people. l… I find them so impersonal as to in no way honor anyone. My kids felt the same way. They felt pressure to attend but hated them.

Funerals and toddler birthdays on the other hand have always felt very very personal.

The drive from the Tappan Zee to Atlantic City is obnoxiously long.

It is worthwhile to look carefully at the statistics. While the screaming headlines will say cases in Texas are skyrocketing, they would need to more than double to reach the average per capita number in US states. It is a source of concern, but it does no good to spread inflammatory info not really backed up by a more careful scrutiny of data. In one of her rare missteps, the Harris county executive (Houston) decried the doubling of the county death rate at one point. True, but going from 2 deaths to 4 deaths isnt a cause for panic. Perhaps some of the states facing the greatest increases had unusually low infection rates before.

Whether an event is significant to someone is personal - since March 23 we have postponed my S’s wedding, lost my MIL after not having seen her in person for 10 weeks, then endured a 10-person Covid-19 funeral and Zoom shiva, and missed my nephew’s HS graduation, which is a big deal to him and my sister. In the scheme of life we will all be fine and we understand why our lives have been impacted but it doesn’t make it any easier. I am sad for my S, my H and my nephew…I still think we did the right thing and I can only imagine how bad it would have been where we live had people not listened to the authorities and stayed home - we live one town over from New Rochelle (remember that from March?) in a suburb of NYC. Many have been impacted in one way or another and I think we just need to accept that similarly each will decide how to move forward now.

Not being a math person, I appreciate it when posters put numbers into context.

This might be the time to review what exponential functions do.

I don’t recall what day I bookmarked it, but it was likely in early or perhaps mid March. Then the world only had roughly 150,000 cases and 5600 deaths - the whole world. Now there are 7.4 million cases and almost 418,000 deaths (undoubtedly undercounted in many countries). It’s been about 3 months and a good part of the world has tried to control it.

We’re about to see how high it can go without much of an attempt at control.

It could be quite the ride. At least there’s more medical knowledge about it now. It might be the only plus for this next part if weather isn’t going to assist us.

I think the Tx state released numbers aren’t very helpful (cough) for such a huge (geographical) state but the TMC stats are pretty accessible. https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/current-covid-19-related-patients-through-tmc-system/
I am not going to be a pt in Dallas so this local info is more relevant.

Frankly I think WRT the numbers in the bigger Texas cities, the point about case data comparisons to other cities needs to include “as yet”. I cannot see how the more urban areas of HTX and Harris county are going to escape lightly.

The US has more than 110,000 deaths now. I don’t recall how many we had when I bookmarked that site, but it was probably close to 100 or fewer.

Then there are all who will have after effects for an unknown amount of time who aren’t counted.

3 months… I was teaching in school then!

I remember when we were supposed to expect 65,000 deaths by August. August is still a month and a half away. Who knows what the count will really be with everything that is currently going on.

110K will be a significant under-count.

I remember when someone first was infected in New Rochelle, who turned out to be a super spreader, spreading the infection across the north east and NYC, etc. I remember the conference in Boston. It started small and got big because of exponential spread and some super spreaders.

My doctor said we know it was in our state in “at least December” and we were not counting deaths here until at least mid-March or later because we didn’t have testing going. I’m sure there are way more than the official totals of cases and deaths.

Let it not be said that people assembling in large groups during the COVID-19 pandemic are only on one part of the political spectrum: “President Trump says he’s going to restart campaign rallies with one in Oklahoma, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina.”

It is being reported that the first rally will be on June 19 (Juneteenth Day, for some) in Tulsa, site of the worst single incident of racial violence in U.S. history in 1921.

Awards night is not live but pre-recorded. And also it isn’t ready because of technical difficulties. I thought it would be live on Zoom or have some live elements and a video but it is just prerecorded. Not as exciting. DS doesn’t even want to watch. Hope I like it when it finally starts.

I heard 200,000 deaths by September. I just can’t.