Yep, 114,500 deaths to date and at the rate we are going, by August 1st another 40,000 deaths for a total of 155,000 (and that’s with extreme SAH orders for two months). I think we can all acknowledge that CV-19 is much more deadly than the seasonal flu which was the excuse we heard to keep all businesses open during the pandemic. Thank god we have public officials running this country that use science and not people’s “gut” feelings.
That would be this.
“Harvard Global Health Institute director Dr. Ashish Jha says to expect another 100,000 Americans to die from coronavirus by September,” according to a tweet I saw today. I believe he said it on CNN.
I remember when there were only a few cases in NYS and just from one person spreading it. Then it was a bunch more traced to that first person. And then…well we all know what happened.
At the rate they’re going, they’ll more than double by the end of the month. And keep going up. This is not, by the way, an artifact of more testing. As Texas tests a bit more, test positivity is going up, not down.
This is NYS dashboard.
https://forward.ny.gov/percentage-positive-results-region-dashboard
It’s easy to see how fast it went up.
It is also easy to see what a very robust shut down did to the numbers - all over the state.
Now we have to prove we can re-open smartly and that will only succeed depending how we act going forward. Hopefully, any outbreaks from the protests will be nipped in the bud by testing, testing, testing, tracking, tracking, tracking and isolating, isolating, isolating.
I have no doubt if our numbers start to rise, the Governor will not hesitate to shut things down again.
Off topic, but I don’t think that finding events like graduations boring and attending them respectfully because “it’s not all about YOU” are mutually exclusive. I find your comment unnecessarily hostile.
https://lithub.com/its-not-just-meat-covid-19-puts-all-food-system-workers-in-peril/ The URL identifies the topic.
I’ve been wondering where all those cases in Los Angeles County are. In long term care facilities, of course, as is true all across the US, but @rosered55’s link points to another place: food processing plants.
Peaceful protests in Charlottesville? What the heck are you even talking about? You mean white supremacists marching with guns and torches, chanting “blood and soil”, provoking attacks? People getting mowed down by a car? Your recollections are highly skewed. SMDH.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/happen-charlottesville-protest-anniversary-weekend/story?id=57107500
If you can’t see the difference between protesting racial injustice (every protest I’ve seen, the organizers state masks should be worn) and the selfishness and childishness of refusing to wear a mask in a store, it’s not worth further commentary.
I have relatives in TX. By their social media posts of everything seemingly open and life going on like normal for them and others, I’m not surprised at all by an increase in cases. I’m guessing it’ll only get worse.
Then you must have been very disappointed for the past three months!
I think this thread should be shut down. There is no respect for anyone’s opinion that might be contrary to that of someone else, and increasingly snarky and rude retorts. I’ve been given warnings for much less than what I am seeing here. I know it is “lighter” moderation, but where is the civility we were asked to observe?
Oh most of them would have died anyway.
(Yes, sarcasm. Deeply bitter sarcasm.)
I rest my case.
Even if 200,000 people die from COVID by September, which is far from assured, that would represent less than 0.06% of the US population, concentrated in those with the shortest life expectancy anyway.
Ok, what is an unreasonable death number to you 500,000 or 1 million deaths? There are 330 million people in the U.S. so what’s a million dead, right?
If 200,000 people die from covid by September, @OneMoreToGo2021, your prediction of death rates dropping below baseline in the next three months will not have been fulfilled.
@MomofWildChild – I also rest my case.
Went to a Crate and Barrel yesterday. We are about to put our house on the market, and we had ordered a new sofa, which when delivered was comically large, taking up the whole room (looked so small in the showroom lol). Anyway, now I’m very rushed to find a replacement, thus I’m compelled to go into furniture showrooms. For all the cavalier attitudes of some in Texas about taking precautions, I was very surprised that a young man met me at the door, requesting that I use sanitizer before proceeding and saying that all customers will need to wear a mask and keep it on at all times. I had no problem with any of that, but I will say I was surprised. It’s the first time I’ve been told about a mask requirement rather than a mask suggestion. Oops, the second time-I observed a painter being refused entry into the Sherwin Williams store because he was maskless. That is a pretty small space, so I wasn’t too shocked about that one.
But then you can’t care about anything. Domestic violence deaths, insignificant by this measure, drunk driving deaths, diabetes, heart attacks, cancer, etc. Covid deaths = 3 months time so 200,000 x 4 = 800,000 to compare apples to apples in terms of fatalities. Nothing would matter, no death important if we take the total and divide it by the total population. Only .44% of the world died in the Holocaust. Is that also no big deal? Jewish deaths only .22% of the world. Of course those are all big deals. When you start with looking at a percent of billions of people, even a fraction of a percent is a lot. How about we reverse things. The total deaths so far are about the same as the total people who live in West Palm Beach, Florida. In a couple months it seems that number could be double the number of West Palm Beach residents. That’s a lot!
Your math ‘trick’ isn’t really a trick but a way to minimize what are actually large numbers of fatalities.
I will ask for the 3rd time, I wonder what percent of the population would have to die for you to consider this serious? How many millions of people?
Not sure. But it’s higher than 200,000. I prefer to let individuals balance the costs versus the benefits of continued lockdowns and extreme measures like putting 30 million people out of work and preventing millions of kids from going to schooi. This is an economic and political question, not one for overconfident epidemiologists and government experts.