Rural areas are often the last ones to get products from warehouses. It’s similar to how/why we’re the last ones to get our electric fixed when there are major outages around. Companies go for helping the most people first and we’re not it.
On the plus side, we’re usually full with local items, including produce and “food factory” items.
If this is really how you see this thread, then you’re right. It’s not for you.
Asking for it to be shut down, however, ignores the fact that MANY of us here do not see this thread in such a polarized way. I see way more nuance and gray in this discussion with the exception of a few posters whose presence in no way justifies the closure of this thread.
Just my opinion, of course.
COVID-19 Minority Health Strike Force has pop up testing sites June 12 in Columbus…
“Testing for this initiative will be available for individuals with or without symptoms. The test has no out-of-pocket cost to the patient and individuals of any age are able to access the test. Minors will need signed consent of a parent/guardian.”
Locations listed at the ‘Get Tested for COVID-19’ dropdown:
Edited to add: Governor announced today anyone can now get a test in Ohio. Additional testing sites at https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/testing-ch-centers/
I have a chipped tooth that I’m getting fixed next week. I had the option (and might still have) to get my full cleaning and exam done on the same day, but made a separate appointment with the idea that staying longer in one place might be more risk than two shorter appointments. Also, I had hoped that cases would be going down. Now it appears cases might go way, way up as time goes by. If you were me would you try to have one long appointment for both the cleaning and tooth repair next week or break it up to two appointments? Currently my cleaning isn’t going to be until August.
Thanks!
Oy. Talk about getting off topic! Dangerously so. Maybe start another thread? Because I can totally see this tangent get so heated that the thread will close.
Which most of us don’t want.
I agree. I also think those results may be tough to interpret because – at least where I live – the protests coincided with greater reopening. It will be hard to draw any conclusions that bear scientific scrutiny, which is too bad because they could have been very helpful as we shift away from stay-at-home to actually living with this virus.
And MANY do see the thread in such a polarized way. The people have spoken. It appears it will remain open. Move on and save the lectures.
I certainly do not believe the world is ending. And I support the gradual opening of the economy and loosening of social distancing as a “requirement”. I am grateful that these measures were instituted when we had no idea what hit us. I still don’t like this virus, and feel that it is particularly insidious and that we still don’t know as much about it as we have the flu and other viruses that have hit us. As I’ve mentioned before, those I know who tend to make great decisions in life, and those in position to know the science and medicine particulars are tending to take big steps back away from this in ways I’ve never seen.
I think this came at a watershed time of our lives, DH and myself. We’ve been fortunate enough to have been reasonably healthy and able. But there have been things here and there, cracks in the armour. I think we’ll be more careful about social distancing, and masking during RSV season is going to be in our futures.
I like reading others’ thoughts on the matter and what’s trending in various areas.
I get your point about time in the chair = risk but I think I’d personally do it all at once because each day would represent different possible vectors of exposure with different folks/patients in the office each day.
If the chipped tooth is purely cosmetic, there is also the opportunity to postpone work but who knows if an opportunity will present itself anytime soon if cases are going up.
Went to the shooting range with my brother today.
I wore a mask. My brother had his on his chin once he asked if he needed to wear one. The answer was “You don’t have to wear that in here. It’s optional.”
There was one elderly customer wearing one. The other half dozen people (employees & customers) had no masks in sight.
Ammunition shelves half bare. There was a purchase limit of 2 boxes.
I too think we need to adapt to the existence of this virus until a vaccine is widely available. It’s fascinating to read how reopening is playing out in the various places around the country and the world.
Personally, I’m itching to travel. Once Americans are allowed in, I will have an antibody test and if I, like my husband, test positive, we will seriously look into going to southern Italy and Greece this fall. The biggest issue is getting there. I’m still alarmed at the idea of being on a plane for 10-12 hours…
Widespread mask-wearing could prevent COVID-19 second waves: study
Kate Kelland
LONDON (Reuters) - Population-wide face mask use could push COVID-19 transmission down to controllable levels for national epidemics, and could prevent further waves of the pandemic disease when combined with lockdowns, according to a British study on Wednesday.
The research, led by scientists at the Britain’s Cambridge and Greenwich Universities, suggests lockdowns alone will not stop the resurgence of the new SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, but that even homemade masks can dramatically reduce transmission rates if enough people wear them in public.
“Our analyses support the immediate and universal adoption of face masks by the public,” said Richard Stutt, who co-led the study at Cambridge.
He said combining widespread mask use with social distancing and some lockdown measures, could be “an acceptable way of managing the pandemic and re-opening economic activity” before the development of an effective vaccine against COVID-19, the respiratory illness caused by the coronavirus.
The study’s findings were published in the “Proceedings of the Royal Society A” scientific journal.
At the onset of the pandemic, scientific evidence on the effectiveness of face masks in slowing transmission of respiratory diseases was limited, and there was no data on COVID-19 since it was a previously unknown disease.
But, prompted by some new research in recent weeks, the World Health Organization said on Friday it now recommends that everyone wear fabric face masks in public to try to reduce disease spread.
In this study, researchers linked the dynamics of spread between people with population-level models to assess the effect on the disease’s reproduction rate, or R value, of different scenarios of mask adoption combined with periods of lockdown…
The study found that if people wear masks whenever they are in public it is twice as effective at reducing the R value than if masks are only worn after symptoms appear.
In all scenarios the study looked at, routine face mask use by 50% or more of the population reduced COVID-19 spread to an R of less than 1.0, flattening future disease waves and allowing for less stringent lockdowns.
Retail places here are still asking that folks wear masks to enter. Signs posted everywhere I was today (BJs, Target, Walmart). Everyone was wearing a mask that I saw…employees and customers.
And the Starbucks in our Target store reopened. That’s a money pit for me!
Our local high school had their graduation this morning. It was Drive in like…but was done at the High School with a Jumbo-Tron. The slide show done of the students was fabulous. It rained, but that didn’t seem to dampen anyone’s spirits. When they moved their tassels, it sounded like everyone also honked the horns in their cars. Comments were mostly very favorable, with just a few folks posting that they wanted a traditional in person graduation ceremony.
Anyone else thinking about getting an CV-19 antibody test? I just signed up for my annual physical and I asked the nurse about having my blood drawn and tested for antibodies but I was concerned about the accuracy and she said that the testing done from your blood in much more accurate than the other methods (e.g. swabs and quick test results).
I live in a rural area…but about 9 miles from a small town where there is a BJs. The TP section is fully stocked…and with tons of TP brands. Today they had three kinds of Charmin, Cottenelle, two kinds of Scott’s, and some generic brand. Plenty of paper towels and the like.
I got a three pack of Soft Scrub with Bleach. Still no Clorox CleanUp, and today no wipes.
They also had 12 Oz bottles of hand sanitizer for $4.99…and for the first time in ages, there was no limit on the number you could buy.
I read that there is an uptick in infection in agriculture and packing workers. This leading to a possible shortage and higher prices for fresh fruit and vegetables.
@suteiki77 the dentist is a hard call. If the tooth was bothering me I would probably get them done at the same appointment. I’m going to need a crown on a tooth we have been watching with a cracked filling. I’m not scheduling it as it’s not bothering me. I’m not sure why I don’t just get it over with but I figure that will be two appointments and involve some drilling.
My husband was sick last spring with all the symptoms, so he got the test - positive. (He went on to donate plasma.) My daughter (who lives with us) tested negative. I’ll wait to be tested if it looks like international travel will reopen to Americans.
There was hand sanitizer in our store, and probably 6 or 7 different brands of TP, but definitely not fully stocked. Half or 2/3rds of the shelves in that section were bare. There were tissues and paper towels, but about half of those shelves were bare too.
It’s getting to be like other center aisles. “Something” is there, but perhaps not the brand or size one prefers. Going just one day in 4 weeks doesn’t tell me if it’s a trend or not, but to me, it’s no different than 4 weeks ago except there was TP if one wanted it (we had sanitizer back then too - a store “brand” probably created for Covid).
So, some interesting information from the plasma donation center today:
All of the recovered Corona patients they’ve seen presented with some evidence of antibodies. However, not all have antibodies at a high enough level to be useful in plasma donation - fortunately, I do, which is why they called me for a second round. I didn’t ask if she knew which percentage reached the threshold and which didn’t. Obviously, we also don’t know if not reaching the threshold means that you could catch the virus again sooner rather than later.
They also said that preliminary results of treating COVID patients with antibodies from recovered people suggest that it isn’t a miracle cure, but that it does seem to have enough positive effect that it can help people in really bad shape to pull through. Though again, early days, and I’m sure there hasn’t been a properly controlled study done.
In Israel, they are allowing people to donate plasma with COVID-antibodies every two weeks, even though the usual recommendation is no more than once a month. I’m not planning on doing that unless they told me it was an emergency where someone needed my specific blood type - I know the blood replenishes quickly, but I’ll stick to the normal recommendations.
My son’s first post-Covid soccer practice was last night.
It basically looked like a pre-Covid training.
There was very little distancing.
We’re in the Northeast.
I couldn’t believe it.
I give up…