The metro NY area is already overcrowded and housing is crazy expensive. Where would they put isolation centers and who’s going to pay for it?
In Arizona, Maricopa county tracks some helpful congregate care data with respect to Covid. Maricopa county covers most of the Phoenix area and is the fourth most populous county in the US, over 4.4 million population. Up until a couple of weeks ago, over 70 percent of all deaths And about 13% of Covid cases in Maricopa county were in congregate care settings… That’s down to 67% of deaths and 9%of cases, so those numbers are falling.
Great info, @Parentof2014grad.
Maricopa County contains over half the population of Arizona.
Oh, my kids would have loved that… instead they had a MOnday check-in in google classroom… answer 1 queston to prove you were there. Then on Tuesday, pick up “lesson” for the week. Finish and turn in my midnight on Monday of the next week…
So you guessed it… logged in Monday morning, got last week’s assignment and finished it, turned in it… check back next Monday.
ZERO learning
My kids did it… and prepared and took their AP exams. But they learned nothing and a huge percentage of their classmates never checked in or completed anything…they just disappeared.
yes, but it is better than what could happen which is having distance learning with even less teacher contact. My friend is at a school that wasn’t allowed to have live video lessons so had to have everything video taped and posted. Students watched the videos and did the work and submitted it. Students need to have time with their teacher. In person is better but if we must distance learn we should have scheduled time live online. Not having that wasn’t good for the students who I could not get that live online time with. Social zoom events were so helpful for my students. The first time I did it one of my favorite kids was the first one there and when we were talking he started to cry. Then other students showed up and he and they were all smiles. Many kids are online with one another but many kids are not and had been without social contact of friends. I tried to facilitate that happening but it was difficult for a variety of reasons.
A student at my son’s school made an online platform for the students and it was wonderful. Students could ask for help on homework and others could volunteer to help, they could hang out together and listen to music or study together and chat occasionally. There was a Mine Craft server with different rooms where students could play together and play other online games. They had movie nights with three different moves to choose from. That’s a wonderful amount of peer support for those high school kids. Plenty of kids joined (hundreds) and used it regularly. I think it was great! Our school (middle school) didn’t have that but I’m pushing for regularly scheduled events to happen.
We did have videos we made for the students and that the students made for us that certainly were greatly appreciated.
That stuff is essential for students emotional well being. I have multiple students who had family in the hospital, some on respirators. one lost a relative to Covid and maybe 2 other family members (they had 3 deaths in a very short time and one was for sure to Covid). Any emotional support schools can give, even if distant, even if much less than ideal (in person) is crucial in my opinion.
The whole situation was so stressful to me as an adult. I think it was for many students but not all. Some felt happier in distance learning. Many ADHD kids we have did better and told us they liked not having distractions. Introverted students liked it better sometimes, especially at first (but that didn’t always last). Most kids I think were stressed with some worry at the very least and it was harder for schools to support them in this.
I was going to ask what t was. Thanks!
My father pays hundreds of dollars a day for his nursing home care. When I read this I thought, how can they not have enough money for PPE? Then I realized that they kept Covid out of their facility, even here in PA in the county with the most nursing home deaths. They were also the first facility in the county to close to outside visitors, two weeks before the governor finally issued a stay at home order. They were very proactive in protecting their residents.
Bless you for going all out to help your school children.
Our local schools were very limited with what they did. As someone said above, similar here, assigned weekly work to be done on Monday, turn in by next Monday. No real instruction, no real learning, sadly just a little bit of busy work.
I wish you were involved in my children’s education. Ultimately I think our school system severely limited teachers, because some kids were limited, to make everything equal. In the end no one wins.
God I hope this fall they get to go to school.
Thank you. I feel honored by what you wrote and I’m not sure if I am deserving or not. I do try my hardest for the kids, though. I hope things go much better for all in the fall.
This pandemic really points out systemic flaws and shortcomings in our country that exist and need mending even in the best of times - lack of adequate internet, especially in rural area and food insecurity being just two pointed out here out of many.
Desperate times require desperate measures but I’m not sure the average PE teacher will make a good teacher of core curriculum.
@suteiki77 I admire your passion and dedication to teaching. You’re truly an asset to your community!
I keep thinking of the measures the Chinese and South Koreans have implemented to isolate those testing positive in specific quarters to help stem the spread. Seems like it definitely pays off. Quarantining at home is ineffective for many, near impossible for those living in close quarters.
How did they do it, doschicos? I think of both of these people as living in fairly tight conditions and in multigenerational homes.
Agree that students who are already behind are at risk of falling even more behind.
Seems unlikely this particular school district would be able to afford all of the extra costs associated with opening according to CDC guidelines…more busses, smaller classes which require more teachers, PPE for staff and students, enhanced cleaning practices requiring more labor and supplies, etc.
Have they announced their plans yet for Fall, or do they at least have a process underway for determining options?
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This area has been compliant with whatever the state rules are so they will open when state schools are opened. No plans from what I’ve heard. Never seems to be much planning. I don’t see how this is going to be different. This whole area has been economically hurt so it’s not like there’s any extra to go around.
It’s pretty much the rule that marginalized enterprises, people and communities get more of the brunt of misfortunes. I don’t see this being any exception.
I agree about tight living conditions and multigenerational homes. I know both countries have had separate facilities for those diagnosed as positive and recovery facilities for those who were hospitalized but recovered. In contrast, the US and most of the Western world just had people isolate at home. Obviously, the former requires a commitment of money, time and resources but I think that pays of in the long run. We’re short on that foresight, IMO, even when we had examples of success stories to emulate from other countries.
Isn’t there federal funding for some of these Covid related costs to schools? Of course, it does mean organization at the state and local level. States’ Boards of Education need to step in/step up and coordinate a response.
https://www.future-ed.org/what-congressional-covid-funding-means-for-k-12-schools/
Are you asking me? I really don’t care what NY does or doesn’t do but I would appreciate it if they stopped giving advice or admonishment to the other states that are doing much better and have a fraction of the death rate.
In my area, I think a great use of tax money would be to use the empty arenas, sports venues, etc to host infected patients that don’t need hospital care. That would be much more cost effective than many of the other measures in place, like shutdowns. Targeted approaches like having isolation housing in conjunction with continuing to ensure extensive monitoring of and prioritizing PPE supply to nursing homes (which FL is already doing) would allow some economic activity while still protecting the most vulnerable and slowing virus spread.
I don’t think the speed and volume of testing is adequate yet, though, so that’s another area I’d suggest investment in.
Interesting article, video included. I first posted about this a few months back on one of the other Covid threads but interesting to see it is continuing/expanding in the wake of a real lack of leadership from the Brazilian government.
Rio cartels go from running drugs to pushing medication
By Nick Paton Walsh, Jo Shelley, Roberta Fortuna and William Bonnett, CNN
Rio de Janeiro (CNN)Coronavirus rages on the edges of Rio de Janeiro – in the hills and slums run by drug gangs, where police dare not go unless on an armed raid.
Absent of help from the state – President Jair Bolsonaro has pledged to crush criminals “like cockroaches” – the gangs have stepped up. Where before they peddled narcotics with the rule of the gun, now they also push curfews, social distancing and food handouts for the neediest.
“We fear the virus, not Bolsonaro,” said Ronaldo, a gang member who, like most people interviewed, either requested anonymity or gave a false name. “We can’t count exactly how many have already died. The hospitals kill more than if you stay home and take care of yourself.”
A drug gang granted CNN access one of Rio’s poorest and most socially isolated communities, to illustrate how it has dealt with Covid-19. It’s an area inaccessible to state healthcare. Alcohol gel, medication and cash handouts are all part of a system that gang members were eager to display, with Brazil now the country with the second highest number of coronavirus infections behind the United States, and where cases are still doubling every two weeks.
More…
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/americas/brazil-rio-favela-coronavirus-care/index.html
Also in Brazil:
Brazilian family storms Covid-19 ICU after death of relative
From journalists Marcia Reverdosa and Rodrigo Pedroso in São Paulo
Upset by the death of a hospitalized relative, members of a Brazilian family stormed the intensive care unit of a Rio de Janeiro hospital used to treat Covid-19 patients on Friday.
According to Rio de Janeiro’s municipal health secretary, the visibly upset family entered the ICU, broke a sign and slammed a door. Security staff and members of the health staff intervened to calm the situation at the Ronaldo Gazolla Hospital.
Rio’s municipal health secretary denied a local media report that the relatives wanted to inspect ICU bed occupancy following a call by President Jair Bolsonaro to do so.
Dr. Alexandre Telles, president of a local doctors’ union and a physician at the Ronaldo Gazolla Hospital, told CNN the family members entered a restricted area.
"They went there and verbally harassed professionals, got into the nursing areas, distressing patients, and threw computers on the floor. It was very difficult,” Telles said. “We understand families can get very upset, but this anger towards professionals who are already under a lot of stress is unfair, to say the least.”
The incident followed a call from Bolsonaro asking Brazilians to enter Covid-19 wards to inspect hospital conditions.
Bolsonaro said in a Facebook Live on Thursday that local politicians may be inflating data on the number of deaths from coronavirus to receive more money and to blame his government for the country’s infections spike.
Brazil has more than 828,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and at least 41,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University’s tally.
Seems like the best to give some advice are the areas that have lived through the hardest/largest outbreaks. They speak from experience.
Can we not get into the whole regional/state bashing again, please?
Yes!!! Why can’t we just want to wish everyone well. If Arizona is doing worse it shouldn’t make us feel better. At the same time, for some of those states where #s are going up, it may make sense for them to look into why numbers are going up and do something about it. I really do not understand why people keep on saying that NY has done something wrong. The pandemic hit NY first because NY had most foreign visitors (we had 3 largest international airports in the country). During those early days, we (the whole US) didn’t have enough tests, how to treat the virus, didn’t know about wearing masks and do social distancing. What people can learn from NY is that shelter in, wearing masks in public and social distancing do work.
Plus, NY had this misfortune of early super spreaders/clusters e.g. New Rochelle situation. I think NYS did a pretty good job of handling that outbreak.
Boston (Chelsea) set up temporary lodging for infected folks, at local chain hotels, but it was way underused.