The WSJ article listed several locations in the US that have set up that type of temporary lodging and they’re all having the same result - underused. Understandable - when you’re sick, the last thing most people want to do is go somewhere strange and away from their family, especially if they have visions of possibly never seeing their family again and dying alone in a hospital. Maybe this could be the one of the next public education efforts, though - helping people understand how this stops the spread. That, masks, etc… more education and public campaigns needed.
In some of the Asian countries, it wasn’t voluntary. Of course, legal and political differences make that an issue here.
If NY or any state, anyone has an observation to share, fine with me. It can be useful. I take it under advisement and make my own decisions about the information. If it’s so grating to me, I just ignore.
I do believe if a super spreader gets around enough people anywhere, it’s going to set off an epidemic of sorts. Some of it comes down to luck , bad or good as to what can happen anywhere. My area has been taking good precautions but I shudder to think about what a damage could be done if a certain combination of events should happen.
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Will the PE, music, art, etc. teachers need additional training and credentialing to teach subjects that they have not previously been teaching?
State budgets have suffered catastrophic losses. No commercial tax money, no sales tax, no corporate income tax, and millions out of work. Add to that staggering increased costs related to the pandemic, and you can bet there will be no extra state money for public education this fall.
Realistically, kids are not going to sit at a screen of school 7 hours a day, and most parents can’t afford to stay home and force them to do it anyway, so online is likely to mean high dropout rates, and increased juvenile issues with drugs, crime, etc.
It really does feel like the 1930s, with the elite private day and boarding schools serving the affluent and the rest left to scrounge whatever education they can.
Yep, most people in the US aren’t voluntarily going to go to a “quarantine zone” when sick. In the US we’re not going to force it either, and I wouldn’t want it any other way. We are a country of freedoms and this isn’t the end of the world as far as pandemics go.
At this point with less than 1% mortality and things mostly controllable it’s probably just going to run it’s course. If we get an effective vaccine that would be a bonus.
I’m guessing they’re dealing with elementary school students. I can’t see our non-math teachers teaching Pre-Calc or the non-science teachers teaching Chemistry. I can’t imagine what it’d be like if I were asked to teach Spanish or Art. I don’t speak Spanish and I’ve very artistically challenged.
My Physics degree allows me to do most sciences or any math, but I’d never be terrific replacing an English teacher. “Does a comma go there?” “Uh, maybe.” 
Give me quadratic functions, polar coordinates, or f=ma. I’ve even learned enough Bio to do that one well, but English wouldn’t even interest me. By high school we specialize for a reason.
Has anyone heard a rational plan for when these school modifications would end? Would they be in place until there is a vaccine? Until there are no new cases in the community? Until the faculty all retires and younger folks are hired? What exactly is it that we are waiting to occur?
One thing I remember that my dad always told me:
“Learn from other people’s mistakes. Life is too short to make them all yourself.”
All the state bickering is driving me nuts, but one take away is if the earlier hit states had done more sooner - aka - where other states are at now - it wouldn’t have been as horrible for them.
Now we know about masks, distancing, and have more PPE.
Rather than pointing to low current numbers. Work to keep them that way.
Every state was low in numbers at one point in recent history - say, a mere 6 months ago.
One effect of a mandatory quarantine for those who test positive would be that people wouldn’t be willing to get tested at all.
I’ll admit it: assuming I can at some point be infected again, I would be very loathe to be tested. In Israel, the rule is that you need two negative test results 24 hours apart in order to stop self-isolating. At the time I was infected, you also needed to wait two weeks after the first test to be eligible for a second test – and I’m not confident that I would have gotten one even that quickly without being a PITA. Test results then take two days if you’re lucky - and of course, in a lot of cases, you’ve been self-isolating for some time before getting tested. Plus, as we know by now, the virus can stay in your system for some time and result in positive test results even when you are not believed to be infectious. Still means you have to stay in quarantine.
In all, I was in quarantine for a full four weeks. Over two of those weeks was after I had been without fever for three days, and more than 7 days past the onset of symptoms. I remember distinctly that Prince Charles was diagnosed after I was, and got out of quarantine over a week earlier.
Again, I’m not proud of it, but at least until there’s a test that can distinguish between dead and living virus, unless I G-d forbid needed hospitalization, I’m not getting another test. I’d self-quarantine until several days with no symptoms on my own and tell close contacts I was ill, but that’s not ideal from a contact-tracing perspective.
If I still lived in the US, where as far as I know they aren’t generally retesting people who tested positive initially, I would be much more willing to get tested.
I’ve donated plasma twice and intend to continue doing it. I donated half of my stimulus check. I wear a mask, even though I’m much less likely than those around me to be a risk to others. I’m willing to lose significant money on my already-delayed wedding reception by limiting the number of guests below what the government allows if my partner and I deem it necessary for safety. But I draw the line at putting my ability to leave my own room subject to the mercies of bureacracy and uncertain science.
All of that would be magnified tenfold if I had been required to actually leave my home entirely.
Our school hasn’t even figured out where to begin, much less end. There are 8 different committees that will be hashing details out over the next month and a half to figure out what can feasibly be done the end of August.
(NOT meaning this next bit snarkily at you - just a comment in general)
Quick fixes that always work out right are only done in Hollywood. All problems solved in a couple of hours.
No matter what our school ends up doing, the one guarantee is it will be wrong to somebody or several somebodies.
This thread has gone so fast so sorry if this has been mentioned. Would it be feasible for schools to make some kind of plexiglass shield/bubble for the teachers? I would hate to think that the older, more experienced educators would leave because of the risk if them getting infected.
@CountingDown , I am so sorry for your loss.
My kid’s high school sent out a survey asking parents whether they were sending their kids back or not in the fall. They are setting up a zoom call this upcoming week to lay out options for parents. Will be interesting to see what they come up with. I live in an supposedly affluent area, but at the same time, 20% of the kids live in food insecure households. The school district has done a phenomenal job at having weekly food distributions for K-12 so that the kids aren’t going hungry.
Report on kids and CV19 in Florida just released.
‘Florida reports 3,400 kids with coronavirus; 10 stricken with severe illness’
“With summer camps opening around the state, health officials just shared a report detailing new coronavirus infections among children.
These statistics show 37,211 children have been swabbed, and 9.2% of them, or 3,407, tested positive.”
“There have been 73,552 confirmed COVID-19 cases among all ages in Florida, ranging from 218 babies to a 108-year-old Miami-Dade County woman, according to the state.
The report released Friday also says 103 children have been treated in hospitals and none have died from COVID-19 illness.”
“There have been 10 cases of a rare condition called “Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children.” Four of these cases associated with the new coronavirus were in Miami-Dade County, one was in Broward and one was in Palm Beach County.
“Miami-Dade has had the highest number of children diagnosed with COVID-19 (621); that means 12% of the 5,175 children tested were positive.”
“Next is Palm Beach County, with 507 pediatric cases. The data show 16.6% of children were diagnosed from the 3,049 who were tested.
Broward has the third-highest total of childhood cases, with 309. The county had 3,221 kids get tested and 9.6% were positive.
The three counties — home to 28.9% of Florida’s population — have had 42.2% of the cases among people younger than 18.”
In other more alarming new, imo, from Florida:
‘Florida tops 3,000 coronavirus deaths; adds 2,581 cases in a day’
“Florida reported a new coronavirus death toll of 3,016 people on Saturday, including an increase of 49 fatalities in the past 24 hours.
At the same time, the Department of Health said 2,581 people tested positive for COVID-19 over the previous day.”
“It’s the first time the state has had more than 2,000 people diagnosed with the virus in a single day.
Saturday continues an unprecedented surge of cases in Florida, with at least 1,000 new infections counted on 10 out of the past 11 days. The state added 1,902 new cases on Friday, and 1,698 cases on Thursday.”
The Governor doesn’t seem concerned though.
@CountingDown, I’m so very sorry for your loss.
TL; DR-In other words, 5% of the Florida COVID cases have been in children, and none have died. Got it, @emilybee.
My kid got his Covid test results today (1 day…not 8-9)…negative!
Sorry if this has been mentioned but is there a website which indicates the current and projected number of ICU beds available by state? It seems that should be the key factor unless there is info that a vaccine or cure is going to likely be ready in the next month or two.
If the state or regional hospital has capacity should quarantines not be lifted until they are in imminent danger of being overwhelmed? It seems that we are just delaying the inevitable and pushing the spike til when flu season begins.