It took me less than 2 minutes to find an article explaining that NYC park gates were chained shut this spring to enforce social distancing (even as people on CC were quite busy bashing New York for not doing enough to stop the spread). Locks have been repeatedly vandalized and broken. Welding is a temporary fix until chains can be reinstalled.
What phase are parks allowed to open? That’s the phase we have to get to in order for them to open. So the people in NYC, the Hamptons, and anywhere else in NY where they’re ignoring the rules are going to drive up the numbers and set back the reopening schedule.
Orderly political protests aren’t quite the same category as children playing in a public park, as I’m sure most posters on CC are well aware.
I encourage people who post here to provide evidence and incidence (i.e., percentage of individuals and situations to which the claims pertain) for their statements such as “They do have guns and everything.” It’s more helpful to be told that “X percent of people are wearing masks in stores” and the basis for the claim of “X percent” than to be told “Everyone is wearing masks” or “Nobody is wearing masks” and the basis for the claim is either explicitly or implicitly “Because I think so.”
@rosered55 you’re joking. This is a college parents chat thread. And hyperbole and selective sourcing based on philosophy is de rigueur of this thread.
The people in the Chaz area have guns, they knives, sticks, they have started fires and defaced city blocks. That wasn’t the point.
I’m not spending one moment of my life verifying the obvious. Just like I said about the Michiganders
So the article was correct that parks are not allowed to open in NYC, and the gates are being welded to keep families from taking their kids to the park. Ok, then. I’d be much less concerned about dozens of kids playing in neighborhood parks than thousands of protesters shouting slogans smoking weed and quaffing White Claw. From a public health stand point.
The Tulsa rally sounds every bit as unsafe from a Covid standpoint as the outdoor protests, maybe more. Sounds like there will be a temperature check at least, which the outdoor protests didn’t have.
Since we haven’t seen spikes in hospitalizations following Memorial Day and the street protests maybe the Tulsa rallies won’t cause outbreaks either. Or maybe they will, I don’t know of anyone whose predictions about all of this have been very good.
In Seattle, I understand basic sanitation is an issue, the diseases festering among that group of misfits might be interesting, epidemiologically.
It’s difficult to construct a more dangerous scenario for covid spread than a packed arena with unmasked people, most in the more dangerous age groups, shouting slogans. If you were trying to make a superspreading event, that’s what you’d make.
Maryland numbers down again today. Percent positivity down 0.17%, hospitalizations down 6, new positive confirmed cases about half the trending value again today.
We opened to phase one a month ago in almost every jurisdiction. We are now enjoying phase two in most areas. Even our hardest hit counties are seeing their numbers looking much better.
I am glad to report that people are taking advantage of the new freedoms and so far we are still going in the right direction. Hopefully we can continue our trend.
Personally, I have decided to expand my contacts out one degree. Close friends are coming to visit for a week. I’m excited and OK about it. We will go sailing, kayaking and maybe one outdoor restaurant. The only issue is they are flying in so that adds a layer of exposure that I’m not so keen on.
Deleted a couple of posts. ANY more political or argumentative posts and I will close the thread temporarily. And I don’t care if you didn’t get a chance to respond to an argument. Resist the urge.
My mom’s CCRC is failing her badly. We are considering springing her, renting a VRBO, and having siblings and caregivers tag team care for her. And none of it is necessary. The care team she had before this can keep her as independent as she is capable of being, but they are locked out.
Put oneself in the shoes of a city/state management. Stepping away from the whole constitutional right to protest (not to swing sets and play structures), what can one reasonably and pragmatically control and not control? What are the consequences of action/inaction of each? If the answer is to allow everything and not control those things one can control, might as well completely give up on trying to quell the spread of Covid. I don’t think that’s what we want.
I also think that painting a picture of “thousands of protesters shouting slogans smoking weed and quaffing White Claw” is hyperbolic.
We’ve had family over. A socially distanced lunch for a birthday celebration. Young adult children and their partners have visited us for 7-10 days each but they sacrificed by isolating themselves for the 2 weeks proceeding because they know we’ve been very careful due to higher risk factors and they certainly don’t want to be the vector of spread.
I think creating a Covid bubble or Quaranteam is a great idea as long as everyone is on the same page and consistent in their expectations and precautions.
It’s sad to think we would give a pass to those we are apparently afraid of offending or escalating while at the same time locking out children because, well, they’re easier to control. That’s not the way I want the world to work.
NYC is only in Phase One. Playgrounds cannot be opened until Phase Two.
Middleton isn’t really a park. It’s a playground and also has hand ball courts & basketball courts (which isn’t allowed in Phase One, either and I doubt in Phase Two because one can’t really social distance playing b’ball.) All these types of parks have been closed since March in NYS.
Despite all the available data that transmission outdoors is very unlikely, that young children do not appear to be vectors for this virus, and that young children do not have much risk to themselves from this virus, playgrounds stay closed? Not a data based decision.
