Coronavirus thread for June

I don’t quite know how to interpret the CDC report. It says that of the patients they analyzed, 5% died. So this is not a random sample of people who tested positive for covid, I don’t think.

Wow. Could you provide a link? Thanks!

For that Jacksonville group, i guess when they all recover they can hang out together again and not worry about spread anymore.

This leaves a question on if a group of young people are sick , does it hurt to hang out together while recovering?

Personally, I wouldn’t. I recall them saying viral load was important - meaning the more virus one gets the worse it tends to be for them. Having a bunch of people continuing to give each other more when they are already sick seems like a bad recipe. I wouldn’t want to be the experimental subjects for that one.

Bars being open is a very bad idea.

Obviously, religious services open, also.

I think a lot of people are under the misconception that the pandemic is over now that things are reopening.

It’s as dangerous and contagious as it was in March. Nothing has changed at all.

For anyone interested - tonight on Frontline:

‘Frontline’ Traces the Footsteps of Covid-19’
“Its new report, “The Virus: What Went Wrong?,” recounts the progress of the disease and asks what America missed.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/arts/television/review-frontline.html?action=click&module=Features&pgtype=Homepage

It’s going to go from bad to worse, imo.

“They’re either just over it, or they’ve come to believe it’s a phony pandemic because their own personal grandmother hasn’t been affected yet,” said Andrew Noymer, an epidemiologist at the University of California at Irvine, in Orange County. Elected officials last week forced the county health department to scale back a mask-wearing order. “People just think this is a nothingburger. So they think the risk is exaggerated.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-recommendations-ignored-as-case-numbers-rise/2020/06/15/0c112bdc-af3a-11ea-8758-bfd1d045525a_story.html

We were planning on a trip to Acadia National Park but never made reservations because of the 14 day quarantine rule. Now you can bypass the quarantine with a negative COVID test. I believe the results have to be from within 72 hours of arriving. I have no confidence in timing it correctly - the turn around times for test results are all over the map.
I think I’ll save this camping trip for next year along side with the well planned out Canada camping trip. Sigh.

There are no ‘super spreaders’, just ‘super spreading events’ which are almost always inside, involve having people from multiple households together and they tend to be loud.

If some one is sick and has a high viral load, but they wear a mask, keep interactions brief, social distance, aren’t exhaling with a lot of force (singing, shouting, grunting, speaking loudly) around a bunch of other people then there is no ‘super spreading event’.

"Emerging evidence suggests COVID-19 patients are most infectious for a short period of time. Entering a high-risk setting in that period may touch off a superspreading event, Kucharski says; “Two days later, that person could behave in the same way and you wouldn’t see the same outcome.”

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all

Well, I took the Covid antibody test yesterday and the result just came back - negative

I was hoping I had little covid antibodies floating around but no such luck.

Just saw this promising headline on BBC:

Coronavirus: Dexamethasone proves first life-saving drug

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281

The study of Dexamethasone seems like really impressive results. And since it’s an old drug I guess they feel good about safety. Another article I saw on it said that the study conclusion was that it should immediately become the standard of care.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/15/patients-with-underlying-conditions-were-12-times-more-likely-die-covid-19-than-otherwise-healthy-people-cdc-finds/

The statistic I quoted is in the 10th paragraph or so.

The new treatment is top front page news in British press and the NYT. It’s is a tiny update on the WaPo. No mention on CNN which seems often to be behind on stories like thIS This is interesting to me because my husband mostly reads only CNN and he’s always excited to tell me about news I read hours or even a full day before on the NYT.

Very good news!

And also that it’s inexpensive. Entire course of treatment is under fifty bucks.

I have a chronic condition that is kept under control by a very old drug (drugs original purpose was as an anti-depressant.) Cost me $10 for a 90 day supply.

I’m sure everyone has their favorites. BBC is definitely mine. H likes Al Jazeera. We tend to watch NBC most days because it’s on directly after our favorite local news. Then we watch BBC’s World News (taped from earlier on PBS). The difference is astounding. There is so much news in the world that our organizations just don’t deem worthy. BBC still covers our big events too - often with as much info as our news has. I like the different perspective on it.

From Stat News:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/16/major-study-finds-common-steroid-reduces-deaths-among-patients-with-severe-covid-19/

Looks like the scientific community is waiting for the original paper:

Agree that we really need scientists to be able to review the actual paper on this