You are the first one I have seen on any of the COVID-19-related threads in these forums who has gone that far to personally consider variolation or self-infection.
Okay… Birds and wildlife during shelter at home
I live in the middle of nowhere. Yesterday crows were making so much racket I walked out into the woods to see what they were up to. When they are mobbing owls, I try to scare them away. Not owls. A pair of red shouldered hawks. Difficult to say who was fussing at whom. Maybe a nest robbing? Maybe a territorial dispute?
When they settled down, I walked back through the brush still looking up instead of at my feet (really bad habit; last week I tumbled into a shallow creek) and startled the tiniest spotted fawn that scampered off and I hope its mama didn’t have trouble finding it.
Usually we aren’t home this time of year. There’s a lot happening in May and June I’ve been missing out on.
My preferred schedule is get up with the birds at daybreak. Lots of mornings I see the owl bathing. And then take a nice nap before a late lunch.
No bears. 
Wolves and wolf/coyote hybrids. They have to be really sneaky because all my neighbors have wildlife and don’t put up with predators.
No, I do not want to get the virus and no one else I know does either. I never want to get the flu or shingles, or pneumonia, either - which is one of the reasons I get vaccinated.
Edit. All my neighbors have livestock and can’t afford predators.
That’s about where I am. In fact, today I went to work at my office, had a skating lesson, then stopped at the grocery store on the way home, and that’s not too far off from what my Wednesdays looked like pre-covid. I do wear a face mask as required and I try my best to social distance. I always was pretty liberal with the hand sanitizer, which is why I went into SIP with several bottles already at home, and I have upped the hand washing. If I was trying to catch covid, I would not be taking those precautions, and yet if I was actively trying to avoid it I would still be hibernating.
Someone in my skating class joked that the class felt better than prozac and alcohol. The gist of that statement was certainly true. The mental health boost we all got from seeing our friends again and being on the ice again together was incredible.
In the past week, H and I have gotten out twice in our kayaks in mostly quiet back waters–the ultimate social distancing, and so, so good for the soul! Definitely as good as “prozac and alcohol” and probably healthier, too!
One of my brothers has said that he’d be willing to be infected or at least to be in a vaccine trial. He also said that his spouse and adult children would veto the plan.
" long-term health issues associated with the virus for those with mild and severe symptoms, given that it affects so many parts of the body including the brain, lungs, heart, kidney and blood vessels. The NHS has estimated that of all the Covid-19 patients who have been hospitalised, 45% will need ongoing medical care, 4% will need inpatient rehabilitation and 1% will require long-term acute care. There are also a growing number of young and previously healthy people who, following Covid-19, struggle with recurring pain, fevers, fatigue and gastro-intestinal problems, referred to in the US as “long-haulers”. These are similar issues that have been previously identified with Sars and Mers outbreaks, two deadlier coronaviruses."
Only if somehow it could be guaranteed a small dose. I am sure I will get the virus sooner or later anyway. I truly believe a small dose would give me a better chance to have a mild outcome and build antibodies.
That being said I don’t think I would really want to be in a vaccine trial or even know if I would get a vaccine until one has been proven by at least a year of real world use. I do however get a flu shot every year.
So far, none of the vaccine trials are “challenge trials.” That is, they give the person the vaccine, and then let the person live their life and see if they get infected. Being in a vaccine trial that’s not a challenge trial does not make you more likely to get the disease.
In a challenge trial, they give the volunteer the vaccine and then expose them to the disease. The problem is, it would probably be easy to get lots of 20- and 30-year-old volunteers, but this vaccine is most important for 70- and 80-year-olds, so it has to be tested on 70- and 80-year-olds. It would be difficult to get approval for a challenge trial for a lethal disease with no cure.
I live with woods in my backyard and a lake at my corner. It’s been so nice this week and last to be down at the lake. It’s a lake club with a ton of picnic tables. They were moved around a bit so there is at least 10 feet between tables. I go down and just relax and read a book. I could kayak or put my feet in the water, but it’s a little cold water for me now. Still, nicer to spend time outdoors. This beats March to May (we had snow May 9) when we spent more time in the house than anywhere else.
Don’t know anyone who wants to get infected for attention. I tend to avoid people like that in my life. Makes life easier.
As far as getting the virus, no thanks. I have certain medical issues that would put me at risk of complications. Not going to willingly roll that dice.
I know 2 people who have had Covid-19. One is a 30 year old family member who works as an EMT. That person was sick for the weekend but recovered quickly. The other person is an acquaintance in my town - a man in his 50s whose children are the same ages as my own and therefore often classmates. He wound up in intensive care on a ventilator. He recovered but last I knew he was in a rehab center still. Considering the ages of most posters here, and therefore the elevated risk of complications, I’m a little surprised some of you aren’t concerned about becoming sick. Even if one is lucky enough to do okay with the virus, there is the risk of infecting others who might not be as lucky.
While I definitely agree outdoor activities are healthier than drugs and alcohol, some days I wander around the woods with martini in hand and just think, “why the heck not? It’s a pandemic”
Oddly enough, I’ve never seen anything as to outbreaks at breweries.
No noticeable crimp in the beer supply line, so infections are either being covered up - in the interest of national well-being - or they’ve already perfected a non-contagious work environment model.
@MarylandJOE I did think early on that if I was going to have to get the virus, I’d rather get it in summer because I would have a better chance of a good outcome, so the thought of this did cross my mind. But I think the trouble is that once in the body, the virus can multiply and we can’t know if our body will fight it off well or not, even with small exposure. I think if there were more information, we might find it is true that tiny, tiny exposure over time could help somehow, but I asked someone about this and was told it wouldn’t work that way. I think the more I know the less and less of a good idea it sounds. Of course, in my case, I am hoping we all can avoid it entirely.
Oddly enough, I’ve never seen anything as to outbreaks at breweries.
No noticeable crimp in the beer supply line, so infections are either being covered up - in the interest of national well-being - or they’ve already perfected a non-contagious work environment model.
Maybe hops and barley are the real forsythia? Or there is enough alcohol aerosol in the air that de-covids the places? ![]()
As far as I know, we also still don’t know what kind of immunity is provided.
@catahoula The breweries we’ve been to since all this started were not at all like your typical bar environment. We sat outside, plenty of social distancing, masks worn by servers, etc.
Does anyone else know anyone who seems to want to catch the virus?
For them it’s not for the immunity (I could understand that). It seems to be due to wanting the attention they would get from others - including medical folks if they ended up in the hospital, and they could considering a couple of comorbidities even though they aren’t super old.
H and I are shaking our heads. Is that common?
Anyone wanting to get COVID and go to the hospital for “attention” is engaging in extreme magical thinking. If you are sick enough to need hospitalization, there is no enjoying anything. If you are hospitalized for COVID, it’s because you have pneumonia, or some other kind of organ stress or failure. Respiratory distress causes absolute panic in human beings-we can’t help it. Being sick enough to require hospitalization is absolute misery. It’s pain, it’s distress, it’s fear, it’s extreme physical struggle. Attention in the face of struggling to breathe would not be the source of any satisfaction whatsoever.
Sorry, that just sounds incredibly deluded.
@catahoula The breweries we’ve been to since all this started were not at all like your typical bar environment. We sat outside, plenty of social distancing, masks worn by servers, etc.
I think they are referring to the big brewing companies like Budweiser, etc. Not the micro brewers.