Covid deaths and college students

I haven’t seen any news about student covid deaths this fall. So I found this…

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-college-cases-tracker.html

This site shows the number of cases per school.

Since pandemic began, 130000 college cases, 70 deaths total.

0.05% college covid death rate.

Typical US flu death rate is 0.1%… 2x higher.

Most deaths happened in the spring and were employees not students.

I have seen news about students dying because of Covid this fall.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/healthy-college-student-19-so-much-life-ahead-dies-covid-n1241573?fbclid=IwAR14fdfbWbJ_MMC4ZN28rvydxPuqTm3y9PnHNCdZvnoRU9bKNXZFSsfjX7A

California University in Pennsylvania student
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/california-university-of-pennsylvania-defnsive-tackle-jamain-stephens-dies-at-age-20/

Let’s not have the false dichotomy that they are either dead or fine. Plenty of student who have “mild” cases will have enduring health issues such as myocarditis, pain in their lungs, or exhaustion.

I was talking to someone the other day whose neighbor girl goes to a big state U. She had to be hospitalized. No pre existing conditions.

@Greymeer If we haven’t crossed paths before- My daughter is 24 and was super healthy, strong, and active. She was never hospitalized. Seven months later she cannot do her career of choice due to constant pain in her lungs and becoming short of breath. Please do not minimize the randomness of this virus and how young people can have significant issues with it.

My lad is 28, was 27 back in March when he had it before testing was available to those not in high risk groups, but an x-ray showed it was a “lower respiratory infection” probably Covid according to the doctors.

He’s still not able to walk a mile at what used to be a normal pace. Slowing his pace down he got to 2 1/2 miles, then regretted it.

At my son’s medial school/hospital in NYS they think some of the flu deaths this season back in Feb/March were likely Covid. Many flu deaths are presumed by symptoms, not tested. To have Covid deaths registered in most places, they had to have been tested.

Be cautious with numbers. No one at his hospital he’s encountered considers Covid less deadly than the flu (except for young kids) and they bristle at those who suggest it is by twisting numbers around.

You are confounding the death rate for flu for all ages with the mortality rate for Covid for college-age patients. The flu death rate is 50x higher for the 65+ age range than 18-49 – so not 0.1% for college age, more like 0.02% – so Covid death rate that you are citing would be double the flu death rate- see https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compared-seasonal-flu-in-the-us-death-rates-2020-3

Not to mention as others already have the long-term health effects that Covid can cause among those who don’t die.

[QUOTE=Greymeer;d-2197046]

0.05% college covid death rate.

Typical US flu death rate is 0.1%…(/quote]
These are two different data points and have no basis to be compared.

“ the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu.”

COVID-19 has killed 200,000+ in about 7 months.

Do you think that a rare disease that is 100% fatal and kills 5 people a year is a much more dangerous national health hazard than the (40,000 dead) flu with a mere .1% mortality rate? The “death rate” is 1000x higher, after all.

"More than H.I.V. More than dysentery. More than malaria, influenza, cholera and measles — combined.

In the 10 months since a mysterious pneumonia began striking residents of Wuhan, China, Covid-19 has killed more than one million people worldwide as of Monday — an agonizing toll compiled from official counts, yet one that far understates how many have really died. It may already have overtaken tuberculosis and hepatitis as the world’s deadliest infectious disease, and unlike all the other contenders, it is still growing fast."

Doesn’t sound like a ho-hum new disease to me. Definitely isn’t “on par” or “less” deadly than the flu considering one can add malaria, cholera, and measles to the flu death rate and still have more with Covid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/world/covid-1-million-deaths.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20200928&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=cta&regi_id=133624797&segment_id=39269&user_id=087d056d0d4145cc2ca6626698618875

I don’t think it makes sense to compare covid-19 with any infectious disease that is attenuated because there are effective treatments and/or vaccines, regardless of the point one is trying to make, or which ‘side’ one is on.