<p>aibarr has it exactly right.</p>
<p>Care to comment, football?</p>
<p>Maybe a nice hacker or sleuth will come along and identify you and out you to the company you have stolen from and your credit card company. A mom can hope, can’t she?</p>
<p>AAAGGGHHHH!!! Stop with your lame excuses (“nobody ever asked me”) and concrete thinking. My post in #138 is an expression-- like “I’d love to her you try to sell that line of bull to the judge”. Do your parents know you got a second computer you did not pay for? Did you sell them the same bunk you are trying to sell us here? You can play with your semantics all you want. The sad thing is that you seem proud of your behavior.</p>
<p>I am not proud at all. It is sad that companies give away items without noticing. </p>
<p>Imagaine if I did file false chargebacks. I can buy things all day long and say I never received them. It is sad that it is so easy.</p>
<p>I told my parents and they said that if the company is stupid enough, then that is their fault.</p>
<p>"aibarr has it exactly right.</p>
<p>Care to comment, football?"</p>
<p>What airbarr said doesn’t apply to me. I paid for the computer. I didn’t steal the computer. The company willingly sent me the computer.</p>
<p>“Maybe a nice hacker or sleuth will come along and identify you and out you to the company you have stolen from and your credit card company. A mom can hope, can’t she?”</p>
<p>It is very, very hard to figure out the exact IP address of a person. You will figure out the general area where the person lives, but it is very, very hard to figure out the EXACT location of the person.</p>
<p>Football100: here’s my question to you. If you’re so sure you’re right, please tell us what your parents think of your actions. Or, if you haven’t told them, tell us why not.</p>
<p>“Football100: here’s my question to you. If you’re so sure you’re right, please tell us what your parents think of your actions. Or, if you haven’t told them, tell us why not.”</p>
<p>See post 143.</p>
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<p>It’s aibarr, semantics-boy.</p>
<p>You’d be surprised what can be learned & like I said, the statute of limitations is much longer in fraud. A good argument can be made that you are prepetuating a fraud in your actions & inactions. I wouldn’t count on your not being caught & your excuses not being well-received–it’s unanimous so far on this thread that no one agrees with your viewpoint & I think juries & judges are more like us than you & your parents.</p>
<p>football, your post #141 provided the response I was anticipating from you. You sir, will learn in time what goes around comes around. </p>
<p>I’d suggest you re-evaluate your ethics.</p>
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<p>Tell us: have you mentioned this to your parents? What do they say? Do they agree with your actions?</p>
<p>And if you HAVEN’T mentioned it to your parents, why not?</p>
<p>Whatever happened to “do the next right thing?”</p>
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You didnt pay for the computer. You prepaid an order and then took your money back. Then they fulfilled the ORDER YOU NEVER CANCELLED. They had no intention of sending you a computer for free and you know that. You must really love messing with the parents here. And if your parents read this thread instead of listening to the twisted, distorted version of the story that you like to present, I would imagine they would feel the same as we do.</p>
<p>*** By the way-- since you said you had the email address of the company, why didn’t you tell them you were cancelling your order?? I am still waiting to hear the answer to that one. Disputing a charge with a credit card company (who is a third party in all this) is NOT the same as cancelling the order and you know that.</p>
<p>I have a question that I don’t think has been answered either…where is the computer now and what condition is it in?</p>
<p>I gave the computer to my brother. I explained the whole situation to my brother and my parents and they said that is was the company’s fault for not contacting me.</p>
<p>I guess it is true about the apple not falling far from the tree.</p>
<p>“I guess it is true about the apple not falling far from the tree.”</p>
<p>What does being stupid have to do with this?</p>
<p>Send a letter to the company and ask them to contact you with information regarding how to return the computer. (A return code, a prepaid UPS label, whatever.) If they don’t contact you, well, then you get to keep it. If they DO contact you, send it back or you are a thief.</p>
<p>I am not going to write them a letter. </p>
<p>I simply replied to their e-mail from September saying that I received the computer.</p>
<p>If they have any sense and put two and two together, they will respond back to me.</p>
<p>Football, like it or not, you have committed credit card fraud: Credit card fraud is a wide-ranging term for theft and fraud committed using a credit card or any similar payment mechanism as a fraudulent source of funds in a transaction. The purpose may be to obtain goods without paying (that’s what you did), or to obtain unauthorized funds from an account. The merchant loses the goods or services sold (in your case, the computer you received, after stating you did not receive it), the payment, the fees for processing the payment, any currency conversion commissions, and the chargeback penalty. Thieves abuse the chargeback system.</p>