<p>Here are my stats, but i received 1 c freshman yr and 2 cs sophmore yr
Im an african american
Live in md (OOS)</p>
<p>GPA UW: 3.44
GPA W: 4.28
In IB program (rigorous school top twenty in nation)</p>
<p>SAT: CR- 730 M- 800 W- 700
SATII: Chem- 800 Math II- 800 Math I: 750</p>
<p>Volunteer Work:</p>
<p>Volunteered at ER in hospital- 10th, 11th, 12th
Helped to set up non profit business
Volunteered for court hearings- 10th, 11th, 12th
Volunteered for Ben Cardin campaigning
Set up food drive at church
helped landscape area and refurbish (eagle scout proj)
250+ hours ssl</p>
<p>Paid work:</p>
<p>Tennis coach for own business- 11th, 12th
Worked at garden nursery- 10th, 11th
Worked at local tennis club- 10th, 11th</p>
<p>Ecs</p>
<p>9 yeras in scouting (eagle scout)
Den Chief award
Leader of my troop- 11th, 12th
Against drugs club- 11th, 12th
Varsity Tennis- 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th
Actor in Drama productions- 10th, 11th, 12th
Set up my own coaching business for tennis</p>
<p>haha, hazel you make me laugh. I got a C in precal and a 34 ACT (35 on the math, no less) so yeah, hardly incompatible. its a question of priorities really. I also have a friend who gets B/C in english who has an 800 verbal sat</p>
<p>College admissions isn’t about whether or not the applicant is “qualified”. It’s a competitive process in which many factors, such as test scores, grades, race and state or residence come into play. It’s not even worth debating that the OP wouldn’t be terribly competitive if he were asian or white (unless his GPA lands him solidly in the top 10% of his class) or his school routinely sends people to top 25 universities with UW GPAs in the 3.4 range. A black applicant with a m+v SAT score of 1530 is incredibly rare and would likely receive generous scholarship money from a school like UVA, which gives a great deal of race-based scholarships. The data to support this have been posted here before, and the regs around here should be familiar enough with admissions chatter to know that. I wasn’t being insensitive or unfair, but rather honest and to-the-point.</p>
<p>In 2003, 192 blacks scored better than 1450. 72 scored better than 1500. in. the. whole. country.</p>
<p>That shows how incredibly rare it is and why cavalier is wholly correct in his invoking race in this candidate’s admissions chances, despite the GPA.</p>
<p>It’s rare because black students often don’t get the opportunity or financial need to take extra classes to prepare for the SATs - and most absolutely not because they’re incompetent.</p>
<p>that’s a nice unfounded statement, but totally irrelevant to the topic. please read the topic before responding. we’re discussing why this candidate is appealing to uva, despite the low gpa.</p>
<p>I think tenniscraze is exactly right; even if slightly off topic. And not just black but low income students as well. Not many persons of lower economic status can afford private tutors for standardized tests, nor prep classes. Even prep books may not be affordable, unless the local library has a copy that isn’t out dated.</p>
<p>AND…whenever you consider anyone’s chance, you MUST consider all aspects. Sometimes when it appears affirmative action has taken place, perhaps it’s insightful adcoms, wondering what a person, given all those extras in life, could achieve, in the proper circumstances.</p>
<p>again, totally irrelevant. we’re discussing cavalier302’s theory that this candidate is a shoo-in for admission with probable scholarship offers due to the rarity of finding a black applicant with a high SAT score.</p>
<p>All right, “new member”. I thought we were discussing about this candidates chances and not cavalier’s theory. If you wanted to go off cavalier’s theory, my statement is relevant to that too :)</p>
<p>whatever. I never took any of those ■■■■■■■■ classes or did anything other than c ouple of practice tests before I took any of mine and I did fine. So did many other students I know. I know plenty of kids with NO prep who easily scored 1400+. Can it help? Sure. Is it necssary to do well? no. And I like that you assume all black people are low income, tenniscraze. With all the *****ing you do on here about racial insensitivity you would think you would try not to enforce negative stereotypes.</p>
<p>ehiunno: the converse to your argument is that there is a bias on the sat towards people who live in certain socioeconomic levels</p>
<p>in any case, what our personal opinions are do not matter since it is how it applies to uva that is being discussed… and that is pretty much covered</p>
<p>tenniscraze, your statement was relevant neither to the candidate’s chances, nor to cavalier302’s comment which I already proved was based in fact.</p>
<p>excellent point ehiunno, tenniscraze is a class A hypocrite.</p>
<p>the fact remains that cavalier302 was correct in his initial assessment of this candidate’s chances: they are superb, largely due to the rarity of a black applicant with 1500+ (regardless of your perceived reason for this rarity)</p>