Cupcake Discussion

<p>Soo… what kind of cupcakes do you like? I’m actually more of a muffin man myself, but I can never resist a delicious chocolate cupcake. Mmmmhhm.</p>

<p>LOL
Allusion to racism in UCB? Nah, it’s not
EDIT: cupcakes are kinda gross…BANANA BREAD IS WHERE IT’S AT</p>

<p>I like it when people earn their own treats.</p>

<p>[Racially</a> heated posting sparks UC Berkeley outrage](<a href=“http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/23/BATO1L8RLL.DTL&tsp=1]Racially”>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/23/BATO1L8RLL.DTL&tsp=1)</p>

<p>How much were they charging for Asians? $5?</p>

<p>As far as I know, we are still on for Tuesday on Sproul. Our public universities being encouraged to consider your race in admissions policy, especially after a statewide vote overwhelmingly opposing such blatant discrimination, is downright backward. Come on Tuesday to support us, argue with us, or flip over our table and throw things at us. Either way, youll be proving us right.</p>

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<p>Ahhh I love it!</p>

<p>This isn’t what MLK had in mind when he said</p>

<p>*I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.<a href=“%22content%20of%20character%22%20in%20this%20case%20referring%20to%20academic%20and%20extracurricular%20achievements”>/i</a></p>

<p>How about we ask where’s your favorite place to cupcake. The campanile seems pretty popular, haha.</p>

<p>People don’t understand that, yes, the whole “cupcake price by gender/ethnicity” is racist, only because the thing that it’s mocking is also so blatantly racist. So that’s supposed to be sarcasm/humor, guys. I’m Hispanic (yay, .75 pastries for me! lol) and it confuses me when other Hispanics and other minorities agree with affirmative action. If you fought so long for equality, why are you putting up with affirmative action? AA is <em>not</em> equality, it’s embarassing. It’s telling the nation that minorities can’t get into top colleges without help. And yeah, I’m aware of degradingly low test scores for minorities but, hey, that’s something we have to face and try to change. But two more things to add:</p>

<p>1) How are they going to tell what race people are? Some Hispanics are black, some Hispanics are Asian, and obviously some people are mixed. Just sayin’</p>

<p>2) If you take away affirmative action, isn’t the diversity going to go down? Also just a thought.</p>

<p>I think it’s hilarious how this is still perceived to be an issue even though many students now were barely in grade school during the time Affirmative Action was actually a big deal. I was in high school at that time so I remember it pretty well. Either way, these students now are just regurgitating the same ideological ideas spoken to them by the previous generation who still feel somehow oppressed for some reason. This is a non-issue but it sure brings back memories, thanks guys!</p>

<p>Now I don’t claim to be Cal caliber, and maybe that’s why other cupcake scenarios come to mind, so bear with me. I’m seeing a table with 100 cupcakes, 1 red velvet, 6 are dark chocolate, 10 milk chocolate, 40 vanilla, 45 lemon, some banana, etc. All the same price, and made with ingredients of varying “value”.</p>

<p>BTW, Cal is a fundraising machine! Seems like a day doesn’t pass, when they are not calling us, or sending mail asking for $$$. And yes, we give.</p>

<p>**** diversity. I want to pay what the Native American woman is paying. </p>

<p>NOTHING. </p>

<p>It’s time like these that I wish I were black/Native American.</p>

<p>When AA is gone, diversity is only going to show up in colleges when, frankly, blacks and Hispanics step up their game (I can say that because I’m Hispanic, lol). Also, @Batman17, I totally get you. The only thing that AA does is divide the different races, with non-minorities looking down upon minorities because they can get things much easier (and, obviously, that’s discrimination against non-minorities)</p>

<p>Many of the outraged minorities who were spewing off at the BCR don’t seem to understand satire. It wasn’t a “joke” at all. It was a political statement done in the form a satire that worked beautifully since it obviously received a lot of attention. It was also ironic that many AA-supporting minorities called the event “racist” when, in fact, that was the whole point.</p>

<p>I’m not white, but why is it ok for the majority of minorities to blame the “white people” as holding them down? They’re not- you’re holding yourself down. Rather than complaining and whining, take responsibility for your own decisions and put yourself in the best position possible to succeed and get to college.</p>

<p>I can’t believe how effed up people are here. Some white guys at phi psi were yelling sh.t at these african americans and it was so rude. the black guy was smart enough not to go after them cuz they were just bein stupid. ugh i hate seein that. what an effed up frat.</p>

<p>@misterelephante: Exactly!! Just the fact that they think the cupcake-selling is racist means that they’re automatically siding with the Republicans, NOT the AA people. Because that’s the point…if you think selling cupcakes by ethnicity is racist, BY DEFAULT you think AA is racist.
I also agree that minorities should stop blaming white people; if you want to go to a top school, don’t count on AA because if you get in, you’ll taint your minority with the name “the minority that can’t do well unless the government helps them.” I’m a minority and I think that, because I’m here at Cal, I’m doing something (though very, very small) that’ll bring attention to the fact that we Hispanics can succeed. And yes, white people did NOT make minorities have super-low test scores. It was the minorities who took the tests after all, NOT the white people.</p>

<p>@berklebear: Wow, what kind of frat is that? @$$holes</p>

<p>Can we close this thread already? The idiocy is already mindboggling.</p>

<p>Being Hispanic doesn’t insulate you from your racism Lemoncat, you seem to be self-hating and obviously unaware of the historical circumstances surrounding the implementation of affirmative action policies. It is a controversial subject and definitely not as clear-cut as you make it seem.</p>

<p>I really hope this is a misguided ■■■■■ attempt.</p>

<p>I mean, AA was never really an issue where I’m from (no diversity at all there to even talk about), so maybe I didn’t get exposed to both sides, so I’d really like to hear about the pro-AA side.
But yeah, I’m always in an awkward position because most Hispanics I’ve talked to seem to be for it.</p>

<p>It’s just not an apt, or very well thought-out analogy to me. It’s also not a very clever ploy. It’s an obvious attention grab which I’m sure is going to backfire. As a minority student myself, this makes me feel very uncomfortable.
If you are against the bill, be against the bill but don’t try to out smart yourselves with some poor analogy, you undercut your credibility.</p>

<p>I do agree that, in coming up with that analogy, they were really wanting to get some unecessary attention…
Oh, you’re a minority student too? (Hispanic? Or maybe not?)
If you have a view that’s pro-AA, I’d really like to hear it…I’d like to hear both sides.</p>

<p>@MortimerC: Yeah, we get it, you’re a minority. LemonCat and myself are also minorities, but we both don’t seem to be as bothered by the whole ploy as you are. I don’t think the BCR is trying to hide the fact that they against AA. It’s quite clear if you can read and understand the satire. What about it makes you feel “very uncomfortable”? Do tell because I am very interested to hear.</p>