US domestic (US citizen or permanent resident) or international student
State/Location of residency: NC
Type of high school (or current college for transfers): College Prep Highschool
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Unweighted HS GPA: (calculate it yourself if your high school does not calculate it) 3.1/3.2
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Other academic courses: Stock market,
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Also wanted to add that I am a high school basketball player. And my grandfather has an endowment at NC State University. Not sure if that would help either.
Please come back in the middle of 11th grade - or is there a question here?
Your school should have counseling to guide you - so a 3.1 there might get you into NC State whereas at a public it won’t. But it’s early - you don’t have an SAT, ECs, etc.
After first semester Junior year is a great time to get chanced.
Thank you for getting back to me. He would prefer anywhere from North Carolina going south all the way to Florida, possibly Texas. However, I want him to be in the best business school with the best opportunity for internships and employment afterwards and cost is not a factor so anywhere in the United States.
He has college advising now, but they don’t like to tell us which colleges are best for him which I was hoping to get your feedback on. He’s already taken the PSAT twice and his scores are low. Not sure if it’s worth it for him to get Tutoring to even get up to a 1000 or 1100. So I was thinking test optional schools probably are best for him unless you think otherwise.
Thank you for your recommendations. If you need any further information, I’ll be happy to give it to you. Just let me know what you need!
I would suggest he try the ACT, and prep for the SAT both of which he should take at the end of grade 11. It’s possible a good score on these would help him at some business schools.
I really think grade 10 is too early to look at specific colleges because his academics are really not complete enough to do so.
I’m going to tag @tsbna44 who can give you some information about colleges in the southeast that might be worth researching.
But I do think you should start with UNC Charlotte, for example. Or some of the other NC publics. You might find what you want there.
OK, so start SAT and act prep this coming up summer before he starts 11th grade? He’s a very hard worker and I do know that once he gets to college he will do fine. He’s also a basketball player and has an IEP. But puts the work in to be a 3.0-3.2 student.
We will definitely consider UNC charlotte, thank you. I’ve been looking at test optional Schools- if we apply to test optional schools, why do you think it should still do the test prep and pull his test score up?
Also, if I give you a list of test optional schools that we were looking at, are you able to give me some feedback on the likelihood of him getting in?
Most schools are great but the kid will be responsible for finding work. Schools provide tools to do so but most find so I don’t want to say there is better, especially with his stats. It’ll be more - where does he fit.
Are you a U.S. citizen ? It doesn’t say above unless I missed it.
Some colleges will admit the student but there is a secondary application to the business school. And he might not get accepted via the secondary admission.
If your student has an IEP, you need to talk to the HS about what accommodations he might need in college. Also, it is required that IEP students have a transition plan starting, I think at age 14. So he should have this as part of his IEP. What are they doing NOW to prepare this student for life after high school. Ask.
If this is a private prep high school, who is administering the IEP. This is normally done through the local education agency, not the private school.
@KD13 please clarify…are you the student or the parent? Some of your posts are from the student perspective (“I”), and some from someone else (“he”).
In grade 10? This will be hard to do. But you can list the schools and maybe folks can give you feedback on what this kid (you or your son) needs to do.
It’s hard to know the rigor of your school. Taking the hardest courses you can get a good grade in shows rigor in academics. And some schools have a reputation for being tougher than others.
3.2 unweighted in NC you are not looking at UNC-CH or NCSU – those are out of reach unless the school is exceptionally hard with grade deflation, but the scores on the PSAT don’t point to that, or unless the student is recruitable in basketball, but I don’t think that’s likely – you wouldn’t be posting here if playing basketball at UNC-Chapel Hill was a possibility.
I think UNC-Charlotte, App State, East Carolina are possibilities, but definitely not sure things. Try to get those grades up. Is the student recruitable for basketball at a lower level than Chapel Hill?
One of the most helpful things I learned from College Confidential is to look up the school’s “Common Data Set”. You can just do a search on the school name and that phrase. Section C of the Common Data set will give you info on accepted students. For example, the average high school GPA of UNC-Charlotte accepted students is 3.55 so a bit higher than 3.2. The 50th percentile SAT score is 1240. This is UNC-Charlotte’s most recent Common Data Set.
Just search on “Common Data Set UNC Charlotte” or whatever school you are interested in.
UNC-Greensboro is likely a safety. East Carolina is likely a target.
Thank you. Yes he is currently in grade 10. I am the parent however these are discussions that my son and I are having now. So I’m speaking for both of us… I’m just doing early work because I am concerned about getting our ducks in a row considering his situation. No he is not a D1 player, but possibly a two or three.
Here are some of the test optional schools with higher acceptance rates- if someone could give us some honest feedback, thank you-
High Point university, Appalachian State University, Ole Miss, Elon University, East Carolina University, UNC Charlotte, UNC Wilmington, he really wants to go to Tampa University, College of Charleston, liberty University, Florida gulf Coast, Flagler University, southern Methodist University,Texas A&M, stetson University, NC State, Florida State, Colorado University at Boulder, Auburn, University of Kentucky, university of Tennessee at Austin.
University of Tennessee has its main campus in Knoxville.
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University of Colorado-Boulder’s business program (Leeds) is highly selective for direct admit students. Median GPA for incoming Leeds’ freshmen is 3.79.
Students admitted to CU but not Leeds can apply to transfer to the business program at the end of their freshman year. Pre-business students are required to taken at a minimum: micro- and macro- economics, plus calculus and business statistics to be consider for secondary admission. Leeds transfers require a minimum of a 3.2 GPA in the 4 required CU prerequisite courses to be considered for a transfer.
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University of Texas-Austin business program (McComb) does not admit students directly into the business program. Students interested in majoring in business will apply as pre-business majors and then apply to McComb at the end of their freshman year. Admission to McComb is highly competitive. Only about 3-5% of OOS students who apply to McComb are admitted during the secondary admission process.
I’ll send some more later - full pay is helpful.
You might take him to different size schools for tours - will he want huge like App State, mid size like W Carolina or smaller like High Point or very small like Wofford (he’s not getting in there but just for size) - or like Guilford.
10th grade is too early to start naming schools but ducks in a row might be figuring out if he likes urban (charleston) or suburban (coastal) or rural and how big. Does big time sport matter ?? WVU, Alabama, Ms State etc.
will be lots of possibilities so forget names but figure out the environment and other desires.
So is he interested in being recruited for D2 or D3? Many of the schools on this list are not D3 schools. My son went through recruiting - started with D1 then COVID hit and he ended up D3, but the process is pretty different than the normal college search. You really need to start with schools that have the major and sport and are where he’d be recruitable. Admission rates can be very different for recruited athletes, so once you have the list and start the conversation with coaches, you’ll get a better sense if they require test scores and if his GPA is in range.
To answer your question, yes if he thought he could be recruited, D2 or D3 he probably would do it.
How are you saying it’s different? My concern with his GPA and SAT/ACT score does it matter as much, if at all-
if we decide to focus more on getting into college through basketball? Should that be our change of focus to help him get into his best school? Thanks again!