^^I assume it meant that the 2023 acceptance (i.e. the gap year offer) does not affect the acceptance for class of 2022.
Now, what I do not know is whether Case would pull those committed to 2023 and offer them a seat for class of 2022 as apparently those kids show the best interest LOL
@annamom âNow, what I do not know is whether Case would pull those committed to 2023 and offer them a seat for class of 2022 as apparently those kids show the best interest LOLâ⊠that would be one amazing scenario. Because so many kids are being WLâd this cycle, and some of the T20s have already moved its WL, it is possible that some of these WL movements will trickle down to schools like CW. Then there is the potential of summer melt.
If all the people get frustrated by the CW WL and pull their spots, and If there is indeed greater than expected movement in the CW WL, then CW could be in the position to offer a spot for those who stay on the WL and/or choosing the gap year option.
Being z-listed is nothing new in some schools. Just that this is the 1st year happens to CW. This too will increasingly an option for other schools to copy. Gap year option is not for every one. Even for UChicago, there arenât that many kids got into the z-list - maybe 20 or 30 each year. It may increase the yield some what, but hardly something that will move the needle significantly. JMO.
@ny2ohio I am saying that I am guessing that if they have a freshman class of around 1200 last year, they will have one of around 1200 this year (students who got admission this year and enrolled)âŠand then there are additional students who can stay on the waitlist or take the option of admission for next year.
Given the acceptance rate this year, I wonder whether the yield will be higher.
Say if a kid were to apply to a few top 20-60 colleges as reaches. In the past, the kid may be accepted by a few reaches, but this year, if a kid were only accepted by one, then the kid would likely go to the only that that accepted him/her.
For the past few years, we had between 4 to 6 kids from our HS applied to case, and every year, case accepted 2 to 3 kids from us, but as far as I could see, there was no student from our HS went to Case in the past 4 years. This year we have one kid going and the kid did not get accepted by his other schools.
Anyway, just an observation of our HS and I am not sure whether I can generalize it.
So finally Case come out as Totally BS School, We will notify all our friends and families âNot even consider to apply Caseâ. Waste of time and money.
I am guessing the yield was higher than usual this yearâŠand they still wanted to give acceptances to some of the students they had been working with (who normally would be taken off the waitlist) so came up with this deferred method to do it
Wonder how many students were given the gap year offer. Any idea @bopper? I would imagine a lot of students are no long on the waitlist any more. This will really help anyone who is left now, imo.
Post #124. I am sorry. I do not understand how the âBS Schoolâ came from.
Give that they gave this gap year option, I think that they have more than enough enrollments and will have very few left on the waitlist
Iâll be honest. I am wondering if they are even going to take anyone from their WL this year. The thought has crossed my mind. I am relieved my girl has let this WL go.
@annamom Sour Grapes
If thatâs what schools are based on then every school that denies applicants would be BS.
I know a lot of it comes from the thought that CWRU is some âless thanâ school.
IMHO itâs because outside certain academic circles, CWRU is not a ânameâ school located in a city that is not New York, Boston, etc.
I read a comment from a parent whose child eventually enrolled at USC that she was offended that CWRU waitlisted her child. Honestly though - regardless, her child would have ended up at USC.
Safeties arenât safeties anymore.
Admissions isnât fair. These schools arenât losing sleep over hurt feelings. Sometimes acceptances donât go to the most qualified students. Schools are looking to build a class. There are 4.0 students galore. Sometimes a 2.0 tuba player is in hot commodity. Itâs not personal.
I feel for a lot of the students/parents. If you read these boards, there are students who truly pegged CWRU as their choice. Unfortunately, if you go on campus, there are a few (but vocal) who bemoan being there. Thankfully, the ones who truly feel âwrongedâ - transfer. Then of course you have your SuperAzn69s and MichBlue98s who will just trash the school to no end.
Good luck to all! It will work out, it always does.
I think that they offered the gap year because they did have so many good students who they have had a relationship with over the admissions cycleâŠbut just couldnât take them all this year
So the admission director is like an alcoholic running a bar in this Case? Sorry for being mean and critical.
He should just have made decisions for those EA applicants at RD. Donât do CW â Constantly Waitlist applicants, in any forms.
I think usually the yield was lower so they would have taken many off the WL
Learn to make decisions, for the benefit of applicants and the school.
Can you explain the analogy?
I think I read that some EA applicants were accepted during the RD round, hence I assumed he had made the decision for those EA applicants at RD,
It is a very competitive season.
Iâd think the change to âneed-aware and meet 100% financial needsâ admission policy might have an impact on yield. For families like us, where we didnât qualify for much need-based aid, and have a kiddo w/ good stats, the amount of merit aid given out by CW was undeniably attractive (28K/yr in our case). CW is among the most generous school (and with good national ranking) with merit aid. Our kiddo was not offered much aid in the other two final choices and thatâs an equivalent of almost 120K difference for 4 years. While it is nice to go to a higher ranking school, and/or in a great location like LA, NY, Boston etc etc, but does it worth 120K more for four years? It has made our final selection exceedingly difficult.
Another factor with our personal experience was Cleveland being the location. We were pretty downbeat w/ Cleveland as the location at first then we did the visit and found out how nice the area around campus was - with all the amenities we seek being available, within walking distance (this probably has an impact on yield as well).
I know quite a few kiddos being WLâd by many schools this season and I donât think any is off the list yet (with many schools sending out notices like CW about donât expect much use of WL this year). I donât know how this yearâs situation will affect CW next year, but I would think CWâs AO will be quite a bit more conservative in making offers, along with the increase use of ED to capture the kids CW really want for the class of 2023.
With the combination of generous merit aid, strong presence in certain academic areas, and âCleveland/University Circle is coolâ, I wonât doubt CW will be increasingly selective. It sure wonât be a school for kiddos just to apply and expect âI got in Case who, and I rejected it because I am going to XYZâ.. JMO.
I also think CW has been fine tuning their merit awards to optimize yield. My D applied 2 years ago, was WL and the prospective FA wasnât as generous in merit than my S this year. Academic stats were about the same with my D maybe having the edge.
If CW over enrolled this year I might expect merit to be slightly less generous next year as well.
@ny2ohio This table was not available when we did our college search, but it is a great tool to have. https://www.kiplinger.com/tool/college/T014-S001-kiplinger-s-best-values-in-private-colleges/index.php?table=all&state_code=ALL&id=none&sortby=non_nb_aid_p&sortorder=DESC For CW, it gave out merit aid to 59% of non-need and the avg award was 23.5K. The closest comparison is Tulane 58% and 25K (and also with good national ranking) and the acceptance rate for Tulane this year is at 19%.
There is a segment of applicants like our family - stuck between non-qualifying for aid and good stats for top schools that require us full-pay - and schools like CW and Tulane would fit the bill and may explain the increase in yield. JMO.
@Mickey2Dad Our family is in the same boat. Our S is attending and he and we feel very fortunate.