Dating rules for teens?

<p>I think that in the end this topic, for a lot of people-mostly those in conservative households, this is a religious question, one that cannot be separated from the family’s way of life. For them (most of the teens who kind of took over this thread, for example), to go against parental rules is as bad as an illegal crime. So to them, sex before marriage is not only wrong, it goes against everything they believe in, as with ANY religious-based rule in their home, like the way they eat, worship, dress, etc. So sure, they happily comply with the no-sex rule along with everything else their parents tell them. To them it’s as natural as breathing, and they can’t understand why anyone would feel otherwise.</p>

<p>But many of us don’t live that way, and while we expect our children to listen to us, don’t bundle our child-raising into religion. We’re more flexible about things because we allow some give and take. So even though we might not agree with another secular rule in other families, it’s neither here nor there to US, since we understand there are differences that we do not believe are either “right” or “wrong”.</p>

<p>It’s when someone comes along (wherever, not just here) telling us there is One True Way and everyone else is wrong that things get heated. </p>

<p>The way I’ve done it-answer every question about sex and relationships as honestly as you can as early as your kids ask them. Tell them your personal beliefs and values and why, but allow for open discussion instead of conversation ending comments like, “Because I said so.”</p>

<p>My two oldest didn’t date singly-it was always in groups, although my S didn’t date much at all. My older D had two BF’s in HS, one i didn’t like, the other was ok. It was always a group thing with them, and no one drives much before they’re 18 here so no car issues. Everyone takes public transportation.</p>

<p>My youngest seems to have friends who are into the group dating thing but she’s only a rising HS freshman. No dates for her yet. The one thing we’ve already impressed on her is the one many here have-call us any time anywhere if you need to get away from any bad situation.</p>

<p>I am a former DV counselor so all three have heard about the issues surrounding teen dating violence, what to look for, and to come to me, etc. </p>

<p>My youngest is more conservative that H and I, but I’ve still taught her about birth control-not because I want her to HAVE sex, but so I know she knows how to be safer if she DOES. </p>

<p>But as for people who think it’s fine and good to toss a kid out for getting pregnant too young, I like the approach of a friend’s very conservative church-they run a home for teen moms who have been thrown away by strict parents. They help the girls find housing, jobs, education-things their parents should be doing. They do this whether or not the girls are OF that religion, all they ask is that the girls listen to their teachings. They do not promote anything but their getting on their feet. I happily donate to them when I can even though I would never join their church.</p>

<p>sseamom, I feel you skimmed over the beginning of this branch off and misunderstood people, both in and out of this thread. </p>

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I agree. Those kids go buckwild. A parent really get an understanding on how good their parenting was when they send off their kid. </p>

<p>Another dating rule:
Being someone home that your parents approve of and would not be ashamed of introducing them to every social group in your life.</p>

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This isn’t true. Conservatives do have some understanding of others’ stances (though we may not agree with them), and we have thought about our stances just as much as others have thought about theirs.</p>

<p>No, I read every line in every post. I made it clear that my response was not even confined to this thread. When religion is the basis for house rules of any kind,they’re likely to be taken as unbreakable by many (most?) youth as they grow up. It’s not limited to teen dating.</p>

<p>It IS on track because I don’t think that some people CAN separate the topic of religion and teen rules. But the bottom line is, what <em>I</em> do for MY family is fine with ME. I don’t really care if anyone opposes that.</p>

<p>Where I get agitated is when kids are thrown away for not adhering to rules set by their parents, to the point where OTHER lives are endangered. Seattle’s got entire areas full of homeless teens like that.</p>

<p>I actually disagree/argue/disobey (I hate that term) with my parents quite often. My views sometimes change as we discuss stuff and so do theirs (last year, my mom told me college visits are useless. yesterday, she told me she wants me to visit them before committing…). I just agree with them on lots of the ‘big things’ because they logically make sense to me, after considering secular and nonsecular factors and my own experiences.</p>

<p>As a general rule, I think my parents would frown upon any relationship that impacted my studies negatively. I kind of agree because my personal sense of accomplishment is related to my self worth.</p>

<p>I don’t think religion has influenced any ‘rules’, even though we’re kind of religious. But my religion is not very structured, anyway. It’s just cultural - studies and career come first because they will give you more happiness than a shortsighted relationship with someone, drinking alcohol is bad because alcoholism has happened in our family and it ruins your ability to think, drugs are bad because you’ll go to jail and they can be addictive etc. etc. </p>

<p>I think throwing your kid out for any reason besides them being a hard criminal is not good. I don’t think its unconditional love and I think children deserve that. </p>

<p>I don’t know what I would do if a kid 100% disagreed with me on everything. It’s a really alien concept to me - like obviously you have to compromise, but I feel like I don’t have 100% unreasonable standards. Hmm.</p>

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No, I read every line in every post. I made it clear that my response was not even confined to this thread. When religion is the basis for house rules of any kind,they’re likely to be taken as unbreakable by many (most?) youth as they grow up. It’s not limited to teen dating.[\quote]</p>

<p>Sorry I don’t know how to quote properly
@sseamom</p>

<p>I don’t agree with this. My parents are both traditional muslims with strict rules about no dating etc. I’ll also mention I was born in the US, and I’m half Arab and half European.</p>

<p>I hated the rules and wanted to break them all the time, but couldnt I felt like I couldn’t enjoy like all my other friends were. Hence when I went to college I broke every rule x100 (detailed in my previous post) </p>

<p>Most kids in really strict household want to experience what’s on the other side</p>

<p>Why cant people just have sex freely without people setting standards for everything Jesus.</p>

<p>I think what you meant to say is:
“Why can’t everyone have their own beliefs on sex without people judging? Goodness!”</p>

<p>TeamP-I did say “Many”. I know where you’re coming from as I grew up in a really strict Christian household. No meat on Fridays, church on Sundays, confession because you MUST have sinned, even if you’re six years old and can’t spell the word yet…</p>

<p>But like you, I questioned everything, but ONLY once I got older. Up to a certain point, I and most of my friends just did what we were told regardless. And I had classmates and churchmates that went on to continue following what was taught at home in lockstep.</p>

<p>Like I said, THAT’s ok with me. It’s when I’m told my way is WRONG that I bristle. Or when kids like you if found out, are thrown away for exploring other ways. I know kids like that. They feel they can never go home. It’s heartbreaking.</p>

<p>You’re not bristled right now, right? I don’t want you to believe that you were told you were wrong in here. </p>

<p>I would reply to more, but this conversation is tiring. At times, I feel conservative families are misunderstood.</p>

<p>Here’s the thing, Niquii77: I’m friends with several pastors’ wives who follow some extremely conservative branches of Christianity. They know I am not religious, they know I am not raising my kids to be religious (although my youngest D has found her own way to a church where she is quite active). None of these women have EVER once, told me I am doing it wrong, that my kid(s) should be thrown out for doing x, or that they’ve shamed me by doing X. Not only that, since some of them have kids the same age as mine, neither have they thrown out their OWN kids for going against their wishes.</p>

<p>so, although, true, no one on this thread told me, sseamom that <em>I</em> am wrong, SEVERAL posters have alluded to those of us who are OK with premarital sex or even pregnancy out of wedlock as being on the wrong side of things. THAT is the bristling I’m talking about. Because the very conservative ADULTS I know don’t seem to act that way.</p>

<p>@sseamom: I agree with you that it’s sad what happens to those kids, when their parents abandon them. It’s even against most religions for parents to abandon their kids. While I know my parents wouldn’t do that, I’ve secretly well prepared myself to take care of myself in an emergency. </p>

<p>Kids need to smarten up and learn that after age 18 they need to be prepared for anything. Especially if they’re partaking in questionable activities.</p>

<p>Definitely stuff ill be teach my kids. Not that I would ever abandon them</p>

<p>I honestly don’t care what anyone does as long as they don’t try to harm me, people I care about or ruin peoples’ lives. There are many paths to success. I have my own opinions (which may evolve over time, IDK) but I feel like there are better things to care about.</p>

<p>I think there are some people who feel they need to ‘educate’ other people and society. I can see why individuals might find that disconcerting or annoying.</p>

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Can you give examples?</p>

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There is nothing wrong with challenging moral conventions, or stating that something is wrong, so long as it is done respectfully.</p>

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There is a difference between believing others are in the right and respecting the choices others make, regardless of whether they are right or not.
People have stated that they believe abstinence is the right choice, but only because the conversation went that direction. No one has tried to guilt trip anyone else, but people have stated their opinions on the matter when it came up- and I believe that is what an open forum is for.</p>

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<p>Here’s one perspective for handling extra-marital sex.</p>

<p>^^I fail to see how that relates to Teen dating.</p>

<p>^^That’s irrelevant. I’m absolutely certain that no one in this thread is suggesting that. What happened to that woman is awful.</p>

<p>I’m interested in hearing from parents of boys. My son is 16 and he hangs around with a girl who’s 18. He has taken her on several elaborate and expensive dates. But they are not “dating.” I think he has really fallen for her and she is stringing him along. It’s hard to come up with rules in this situation. We also have the restricted license with midnight curfew. He lost driving privileges after coming home at 2:30 am. All driving privileges, not just social. But I’m mainly concerned that he’s being pressured/encouraged to push the boundaries in order to become the “favored one.”</p>