<p>VC08 I am going to get defensive here. My son has pretty good stats. 4.0 Umich GPA, 3.97uw school GPA, IB diploma, 33 ACT. legacy, Recs , EC and essays were good enough for UChicago’s EA. I actually think some applications have yet to be looked at and Michigan fell short of their ER goal.
I don’t know why this is surprising. What statement on the ER page proved to be true?</p>
<p>Toshima, you have every right to be defensive. Your sons stats are definitely “superb” and it would seem, from UM’s own definition of ER that he qualifies. I really don’t understand what happened and I can totally understand your frustration.</p>
<p>Toshima: I totally agree with your analysis in post 501…Our GC called UMich admissions after my d (and our entire school) were deferred and point blank asked a similar question as you are implying…Apparently, ( and this is coming from the GC), there were some regions of the country that received many more applications than anticipated and the reps had a hard time handling the volume in time for the ER deadline…Many students with stats (specifically, UM GPA) much, much higher than my d (uh, 4.0) were deferred this past week “for no apparent reason”.(not my quote, the GC)…</p>
<p>One other note, a few UMich admissions reps were changed to different areas of the country this year…Not sure if that is what caused the backlog as well…</p>
<p>BTW, the reason why the GC called in the first place is b/c there were still a few who had completed apps in beginning of October who hadn’t heard by yesterday…</p>
<p>So what you’re saying is that they screwed up their timing, and probably deferred a larger number of qualified students simply because they didn’t have enough time to consider them???</p>
<p>I called yesterday, and they said my decision is in the mail. I’m guessing that means deferral.</p>
<p>I have a 3.7 UW, lots of AP/Honors/JC Classes
1950 SAT
Won National Awards
Great Recs…</p>
<p>The only other applicant from my school got deferred also… 32 ACT, with 3.6 UW</p>
<p>toshima: fine, get defensive. but don’t take it out on the ppl who are trying to help. you are getting mad that one of the largest universities in the country hasnt made a decision on your son, when you yourself stated that the letter, a required document, was postmarked post-10/31, which does NOT qualify as ER. they probably havent read the app yet, and are trying to get others who actually met the deadline a decision. other than that, we can’t help you, you should really take it up with the admissions office.</p>
<p>I have a 2100, 3.9 UMich GPA, out of state, and haven’t recieved a reply yet! Everything was submitted by 10/31, with the exception of the school report - the school called up to explain, but I’m yet to hear anything? Am I going to hear anything?</p>
<p>it depends on if they still accepted the school report as part of the ER deadline; if not, you won’t hear back until January most likely. good luck!</p>
<p>VC08, I would agree with you, but as I stated before we had been told, verbally and in writing and personally, in response to his inquiry, that yes since everything was marked as recv’d by 11/10 he was considered ER. In fact someone in the admissions office on 12/14 gave him an email address and said to email some admissions director as to what happened, knowing the rec was late etc. and ask if he was still ER. She just copied and pasted the lines from the ER page stating that if his credentials check said 11/10 then he was considered ER. The rec was marked recv’d 11/3. I doubt that the postmark was really 11/1 that contradicts what the teacher said and it is hard to believe it would be recorded by 11/3 with the volume of applications they received at the time. I have at no time expected any help from CC. However, I think other people with similiar experiences like to know that it is happening to more than them. A lot of posts write off anyone who hasn’t heard as inferior applicants. Read post 503, admitting they fell short would be a far better approach.</p>
<p>toshima, i concurr. oh well tho, because my complete app was received by 11/01 which, maybe im gettin something wrong here, is before 11/10. anyways…Toshima, do you think that we should talk to someone about this or just whatever?..</p>
<p>Toshima, congrats on Chicago’s acceptance. That’s pretty awesome (although I might be slightly biased) and it’s difficult to get in EA. What other schools have accepted you?</p>
<p>full tuition+ from state school, chicago, ND, Rose-hulman</p>
<p>caramel08, as far as action, my husband is a legacy ( grad school) of michigan. He is active in alum chapter, he will say something through that forum. His concern is not specifically about his son but all the other claims and inaccuracies on the ER page. When you make your final decision, this experience probably will play a part in that decision and it should. Michigan will lose some good candidates.</p>
<p>toshima: While I am not sure that everyone feel the same way, there are many students and guidance counselors here that agree with your assessment…there are quite a few who are very concerned about the admissions process at UMich this year…Unfortunately, when you deal with such a large process, it’s hard to predict what will happen…Although UWisconsin seemed to run smoother this round…</p>
<p>I would be more than curious to hear what your husband finds out…At this point we were more aggravated with the process than with the result (deferral)…Not sure it should be that way…Really turns kids off to the school…</p>
<p>It’s pretty apparent that Michigan was not in any way, prepared to handle the deluge of EA candidates. WHen you receive such a huge percentage of your applicants in small window of time, without the resources to handle them (and you’ve garanteed them a “decison by December 21”) you end up with (at least at my school) 23 EA applicants and only once acceptance???</p>
<p>It’s gonna bite them in the butt. Many of the michigan deferrees at my school got accepted (in the meantime) to Stanford, Canagie Mellon, Duke. Other more “borderline” candidiates have decided not to wait for a final word from Michigan and are picking out their housing at schools like Wisconsin or other EA schools just to be mentally done with it.</p>
<p>These days when you can apply to dozens of schools EA and your favorite ED, come December 15th…it’s GAME OVER. Michigan will no doubt fill their class with strong candidates…but I don’t think they have any idea how few of the qualified deferred will still be waiting to hear from them come April.</p>
<p>^^Oh man, that’s crazy…Stanford, Duke?! wow.</p>
<p>toshima: well best of luck to you and your son, i hope you find the results favorable.</p>
<p>rodney: i submitted my wisconsin app on 10/1 and didnt hear back until 6 weeks later, with no status update, etc. i was extremely ****ed, actually, though eventually admitted; at least michigan was organized in telling me what materials were received, and got me a decision in 3.5 weeks.</p>
<p>salem: are you serious? What type of people are they? Crazy stats, crazy hooks, crazy ECs? I can’t imagine how its possible to get into Stanford or Duke and not in U of M, nothing against of U of M, but those other schools are so competitive. At my school its the opposite, everyone gets into U of M but nowhere else.</p>
<p>goblue10nis: Same here as Salem1: 20 EA apps, 1 acceptance to UMich…Many of the deferred into Ivy ED and comparable…There are certain OOS schools (and dare I say, states) where UMich is the safety, but not around here…</p>
<p>goblue10nis:</p>
<p>Same with our school. Perhaps it is because we are in state. OOS is a different story. Another thing I noticed was that most of the accepted EA applicants had strong stats. It is easy for U of M to admit those students. There is nothing to study on their application. So far I have acceptance from U of M and Mich state. Deferred at Yale.</p>
<p>yeah, Yale defers most of their ED pool; I heard they only accept the obvious ones, and deny those who have absolutely no shot. everyone else is deferred. i have a friend with a 3.8/1940 who was deferred.</p>