<p>kelsmom, it’s not about publicity with athletes. They bring in money from alum who love when they win. </p>
<p>As for those who don’t want to borrow and feel everyone else should pay for their education, just regularly read the aid board here, they pop up all the time.</p>
<p>To all of you who said Tufts isn’t in the same league as Cornell, JHU, Gtown, even NW- HAHAHAHAHA. Tufts is just as if not more selective than all those colleges, you morons!</p>
<p>tufts actually is just as selective as cornell and jhu, if not more so. georgetown is tougher to get in to, but it is very different from hopkins and cornell. </p>
<p>kelsmom - you raise a very good point about athletes vs. top students. but most of the recruited athletes at top schools are top students, too…i know a lot of cc’ers don’t want to believe that, but in general it is quite true. i suppose what may be the silver lining is that when one applies to get one’s doctorate, it’s usually a free ride :)</p>
<p>SPS - re: SYA…it can be a crapshoot, really. some students go and do extremely well, others do not do well. if you do one of the programs where all of your classes are in a foreign language and your grades stay the same as they have or improve, that’s a very good thing. not all of the programs, however, are what i would call “rigorous”. </p>
<p>abg41 - be careful making such comments…there are certainly a lot of people who feel entitled to not borrowing/paying less for college because they “merit” it. however, there are a lot of seriously high-achieving kids out there who don’t even apply to college because they are scared of the costs. many of these students would not ever be able to attend college without the support of need-based grants. would this be a good thing?</p>
<p>"tufts actually is just as selective as cornell and jhu, if not more so. georgetown is tougher to get in to, but it is very different from hopkins and cornell. "</p>
<p>i dont know why you think georgetown is tougher to get into…looking from last year’s admit stats, georgetown’s almost an “all take” school if you have a decent GPA…and it makes sense since we have 30 kids matriculate at georgetown last 2 or 3 years… i dunno why but it’s like taking everyone… but i heard it’s true at a lot of top prep schools too</p>
<p>from the statistics the college office gave our class…tufts took about 42% of the kids who applied from hotchkiss, most of them in the middle of the class</p>
<p>cornell admited 22% …all with GPA 9.5(2nd honor roll) and up or no avg(athletic PGS)</p>
<p>JHU’s spread is almost like tufts…</p>
<p>from last 2 years class I see cornell being way more selective than tufts…and my college advisor also categorized cornell as Group 1 and tufts as Group 2 for me</p>
<p>“my college advisor also categorized cornell as Group 1 and tufts as Group 2 for me”</p>
<p>…uh oh, too much info, I expect the phone at the Hotchkiss guidance office to start a ringing right about start of business tomorrow for Tufts to lay down the law! </p>
<p>Tufts group 2?!? “I don’t think we’ll waste any slots this year on Hotchkiss”. Next year we’ll be Group 1!</p>
<p>Perhaps Cornell might be a bit more selective (some pretty average people from my high school got in, though, and its public). I mean, the SAT ranges and such are pretty similar, as are the overall acceptance rates. But c’mon, who said NW and JHU were out of Tufts league? That’s simply not true.</p>
<p>A lot depends on geography at all of these schools. When I was at Tufts, I read some local areas that sent us 40-60 apps/year…usually only 2-3 got in from those schools. Same thing for the rest of New England, NY, NJ, MD, DC…but for kids from the mid-west, it was a little “easier” to get in. JHU, Cornell, and Northwestern do the same things. If you are from Long Island, you’re going to have a tough time getting in to Cornell because of the huge number of apps they get from there.</p>
<p>“georgetown is tougher to get in to” :)<br>
The fact of the matter is that all those schools are wonderful “tier one” institutions with better programs in different subjects and majors. But with regard to selectivity all of these schools have similar, if not the same SAT/ACT/GPA ranges, so the real indicator of selectivity is acceptance rate and yield in which case:
School–Acceptance Rate%, Yield%</p>
<p>Just because you have great stats doesn’t mean you get into tufts. Tufts takes a holistic approach to admitting applicants. They look at the person and their world view- not just how grade hungry they were. There is more to people than their SAT scores- Tufts realizes that stellar SAT scores don’t make a stellar person- they want leaders.</p>
<p>OP, I know this is 2 years old, but with that ridiculous attitude it’s no wonder you got deferred. </p>
<p>You should also apologize to the many highly intelligent and highly qualified American U students who probably aren’t too keen to deal with your whiny ass.</p>