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<p>THis is very scary. Imagine your kids having him as a teacher!</p>
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To me, YES, but who knows, mini might approve… ;)</p>
<p>whoa, I consider myself quite liberal but that is sick! I hope he lost his teaching credentials.</p>
<p>Thank god he got fired</p>
<p>This is not coincidence. Allow me to reprint from my post on another threat.</p>
<p>One morning I missed my train to work and called a taxis. I was polite in the cab, didnt say much, it was early morning and I had to think about the office, don’t remember saying much of anything. I talked just to be sociable. The cab driver, middle-eastern, arabic, threw the change at me when I paid him. </p>
<p>Another time, we visited the Chelsea Market in NY during the holidays and my wife and I entered a gourmet kitchen supply store and try to ask the owner who was sitting front and center at the entrance a few things, acting like any other tourists. The owner, arabic, pointed to a sign that says “Store inventory”, and said things like “can’t you read?” He gave us a look that is so villified that could only come from within. It wasn’t moment of anger, it was a revelation of what’s inside.</p>
<p>It is not us or what we did that was terribly wrong. They hate just to hate. </p>
<p>Besides hating America, they also hate Sunnis (if Shiit), hate Shiit (if Sunnis). The one constant that held them together is they all hate jews. </p>
<p>Why? I listened to a western scholar who studied the Quoran and he said jihad is built into the muslim faith. It is a muslim’s duty to be at war with the infidels - that is to say the rest of the world. And sacrificing (as in blowing self up and bunch of innocents) is the ultimate expression of their faith. This scourge and mockery of religion is more dangerous than facism or Marxism.</p>
<p>Are there good muslims who want peace and if so why are they sitting idle ?</p>
<p>Let me see if I follow. Yourworld met two rude (presumed) muslims while visting that bastion of politeness New York. Therefore all muslims hate America and Christianity and all that is good and decent. Am I missing anything?</p>
<p>I had a cabbie in New York say all kinds of unflattering things to me just because I was from the “Left Coast.” He was almost certainly not of Middle Eastern descent.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t go confusing samples with the population at large.</p>
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<p>My best friend is Muslim. Her mother teaches anthropology, so that people can better understand the culture. Her family is probably one of the most peaceful families I know. She is in Amnesty International, and she spends time writing letters and going to rallies and doing what she can FOR PEACE. She doesn’t blindly hate anybody. She’s Sudanese, so of course she wants peace there (as most sane people do) and her family travels to refugee camps in Darfur and gives women sewing machines so they can do something to earn a living. Of course people blowing themselves up make the news more than anybody else. There are probably a lot of people in the rest of the world sitting there wondering if there are any Americans that don’t agree with Bush foreign policy, because that’s all they see us doing.</p>
<p>If I’m not mistaken, this is the second thread I’ve seen these ‘sample stories’ posted in. Enough already. To take an incident with a rude individual and make the giant leap that all of that ethnicity/race/religion are the same, is ridiculous/stupid/offensive; take your pick.</p>
<p>Thank you, AAM.</p>
<p>roflmho. As if you’d object if the “sample stories” were about a “fundie” trying to inject religion into the classroom. 
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<p>The objection is, I am sure, not about the article itself. It’s clearly to the “I knew a bad Muslim, once; therefore they’re all bad” type of antidote which followed.</p>
<p>That seemed pretty clear to me. I think this OP is totally noteworthy, as one would be about the teacher in Kearney, NJ telling kids they’ll go to Hell if they don’t believe what he believes.</p>
<p>The taxi driver antidote is not school related, and proves nothing except the poster met a rude person. I am not sure why you are looking for an argument here.</p>
<p>Yes, the teacher was in the article was ridiculous. My response was to the even more ridiculous post saying that Muslims “hate just to hate.” That kind of distracted me from how bad the teacher was…</p>
<p>I think you know what it is. Some posters consistently malign entire groups of people, without even offering specific examples, and no one says a word. Some groups are protected here, some not. For instance, the word “fundy” or “fundie” is a derogatory term. I would like to see anyone get away with using a derogatory term for a Muslim on the board (wouldn’t happen, and rightly so, of course). It’s the dichotomy between how tolerant and open-minded some people think they are and the reality which bothers me. Not looking for an argument–just attempting to point something out.</p>
<p>Don’t tell me, those two “samples” were orginally anecdotes from Ann Coulter and Bill O’Reilly. LOL</p>
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garland, I heard about the Kearny teacher on the radio, but didn’t catch any articles about it. As it happens, I was born & raised in Kearny, NJ. My first reaction wasn’t shock about the teacher’s remarks, believe it or not. It was, “There are fundamentalist Baptist churches in Kearny?” It’s a predominantly Catholic town, evolving from Irish/Scottish to Latino/heavy South & Central American over the years. His outburst would be seen as so odd, I am not at all surprised he was turned in immediately. </p>
<p>I think that story speaks more to the power of teachers’ unions & tenure protection. The guy has no place teaching, yet he’s allowed to continue. The “Destroy America” guy had not yet earned tenure, so that is why he was canned.</p>
<p>"To me, YES, but who knows, mini might approve… "</p>
<p>Hey, I’m not part of the rightwing Hate America crowd that has infected your state.</p>
<p>And as for teachers…we homeschooled. Why, we even teach evolution. ;)</p>
<p>What do you think of a culture that stood by while their religion is being profaned by hate-filled extremists ?</p>
<p>Silence means consent.</p>
<p>You think it were isolated incidents? Are you ignoring jihad is central to Islam?</p>
<p>Am I maligning a whole population because of personal encounters? That is generally a good policy to NOT draw conclusion but you also have to submit to preponderance of evidence. </p>
<p>Like: the first world trade center bombing, then succeeded in 9/11, the recent Muslim riot over a cartoon, or something quoted by the Pope, the vitriol from Ahmadinejad that Israel has no right to exists. Finally my personal encounters only confirmed my suspicions.</p>
<p>I will be grateful if there had been any evidence to the contrary. Show me a muslim who speaks against their own kind? Those who did like the Saudis after 9/11 were paying minimal lip service and not genuine in their feeling. Show me one. Just one! No the the sweet-looking, private-schooled muslim teenage girls who coached by dark-glassesed immams and shoved in front of the camera to say a few cuddling words to “americah”. Show me a substantial middle eastern scholar who has anything to say about the killing of innocents by their own kind. Show me one individual beside Salman Rushdie.
Even Salman was quiet about events of 9/11.</p>
<p>Could it be they all really believe in the destruction of the infidels. Some try to carry it out. Others support it by being silent and refuse to speak out. </p>
<p>To me there is no difference. Can you render judgment based on preponderance of evidence? That is the question.</p>
<p>I can (if you were really interested) show you HUNDREDS of Muslim organizations, agencies, scholars, and imams who quite publicly condemned the events of 911, among Sunnis, Shias, and Sufis alike, even among the governments (including Iran - with a HUGE candlelight march and vigil in Tehran’s Muhseni Square on September 18, 2001, probably larger than any single such action held in the U.S.), and in virtually every country.</p>
<p>But I doubt you’d be interested, or you would have already looked them up yourself.</p>
<p>I can name plenty. Go read [this</a> blog,](<a href=“http://muttawa.blogspot.com/]this”>http://muttawa.blogspot.com/) for one.</p>