<p>I have seen a lot of Apple press about how they test for strength, but haven’t seen any actual results. How many fail those tests, and and how well do they reflect real usage? I know that thin sells, but the stresses on a wide, long, thin phone can be pretty high with little room to absorb them.</p>
<p>^I am guessing that’s why they are using round edges instead of the old squarish flat edges. Here’s a study done by an insurer,</p>
<p><a href=“iPhone 6 is the most durable iPhone yet: Insurer - MarketWatch”>http://www.marketwatch.com/story/iphone-6-is-the-most-durable-iphone-yet-insurer-2014-09-22</a></p>
<p>According to Apple they tested the phone in five different ways, against torsion, stress, etc. They also had employees test drive. There’s an article about that somewhere.</p>
<p>jym, I added everyone’s finger prints in my phone so that all my family have an access to my phone just in case. I had disabled the finger print thing on my 5s. After updating to iOS 8, finger print works seamlessly. It lets me open the phone with one touch without having to slide to unlock.</p>
<p>Just a quick set of notes after using the 6 Plus outside the US. Things might improve over time and some of the issues might be due to having incorrect settings: But the first impressions are pretty dismal.</p>
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<li><p>Biggest surprise? The iPad maps are working as they did before under IOS8. This means an WIFI only iPad renders the maps and allows location services to be worth using. The new iPhone? Not so lucky as it does not seem to work without wifi or celllar data. That probably has an impact on all the GPS driven applications as well. That result would be horrendous for people traveling abroad with limited data budget. My take is that it is yet a ploy to massively increase the need for large data plans. </p></li>
<li><p>The iPhone gets really hot and really fast. All leading to the need to buy a case to avoid the bending and the fragility. One could have hoped for a design that will make a case non-essential. That is not the case here. </p></li>
<li><p>Battery life is NOT great and this despite most known culprits disabled. It seems to be on par with the 4S … and far from what Apple made someone believe in terms of the Iphone 6 plus. The battery is small and all the talk of extended and smart use of a smaller battery is pure Apple BS. It probably will be a case of dumbing the phone down to little else than talking in the dark. </p></li>
<li><p>There are various problems with pictures and storage. Lots of confusing settings on the phone, </p></li>
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<p>All in all, I would NOT use the iPhone 6 Plus even if were free. There is a 90 percent chance my dad will send it back and look for a better solution. I have nothing to convince him he should give it an extended look. It really was not worth investing 364 dollars. Using an Apple Mini and a dumb voice phone is looking more and more like a better solution for people who travel a lot outside the US. </p>
<p>^No idea how sustainable those accusations are. The “bend gate” seems like a hoax. They made the YouTube video with a pre-bent phone.</p>
<p><a href=“It’s time to chill out over ‘bendgate’ and buy Apple - MarketWatch”>It’s time to chill out over ‘bendgate’ and buy Apple - MarketWatch;
<p>It’s not like the iphone is the only phone that needs a case.
H has a brand new lg flip phone, with a small outside screen for the time & caller ID.
He dropped it although the only evidence is one shallow scratch about 1" long which could have been from something else.
The exterior screen no longer works.</p>
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<p>Okidoki! We are now going to very few cases acknowledged by Apple --that has offered to replace the bent ones-- to having to believe it was an orchestrated plan to bend some phone? Right on!</p>
<p>Next, we will have to believe that all the broken screen and scratches were done on purpose by people who did not like Apple! Fwiw, I do not think the “bend” thingie carries much importance. We all know that all phones need to be taken care of. And that is why most of us buy cases. </p>
<p>On the other hand, the limitations of installing the correct software and eliminating the bloatware and ICloud are more pressing issues. </p>
<p>Fwiw, calling ATT for the needed international flash files has yielded good success in terms of connecting to the right carrier overseas. Being able to bypass the automatic carrier (on ATT) is a godsend as the phone can be locked to one specific carrier. This has also reduced the heat issue as the phone no longer tries to locate the strongest signal. Of course, it takes going through four layers of tech support who have never heard of the files to get to the right guys. By the way, once you get to that level of technical support, you find out they are mostly Army vets. Great people! </p>
<p>Good god, for someone who doesn’t like and rarely use an apple product, you spend a lot of time mulling over its faults! I got no intention to convert anyone. I am happy with my apple product, the way it works. their fault rarely inconvenienced me. As such, I spend no time looking into Samsung’s or LG’s products.</p>
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<p>It stores up to four fingerprints. I put two of my own in for now.</p>
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<p>If that was addressed to me, you should note that I am hardly a person who “rarely use an apple product” Were you familiar with the many posts I have written about Apple products, you would not have made such silly statement. I spend 95 percent of my time immersed in the Apple ecosystem, and I believe to be a pretty good judge of what works and what parts remain subpar. And, I am not trying to convince or convert anyone. Just trying to remain a tiny tad objective. Something that the Apple fanboys seemingly find quite difficult to do. </p>
<p>If you are happy with the products you have bought … good for you. That does not mean that everyone has to believe your opinion dwarfs all others. Sheesh! </p>
<p>I’m thinking of getting an iPad for bigger screen and use the wifi to play poker game and look at Houzz. Do I have to pay for the data plan $30.</p>
<p>If you get an iPad with cellular, not just wifi, you can turn the data plan on and off so you don’t have to pay for it. I don’t. In fact, I’ve decided the next iPad will be wifi only because I only need to tether it to my phone for a few minutes at a time to download or sync a document.</p>
<p>Interesting, verizon wanted to sell me an iPad but they said I have to pay $30 connection fee. Is that not cellular?</p>
<p>DH used to download the map directions to his phone when on wifi and then it would allow it to be used without wifi to the destination. Do about iOS 8</p>
<p>Consumer Reports tested the iPhones and other phones for bending. They conclude there is no problem. [url=<a href=“http://consumerist.com/2014/09/26/consumer-reports-test-shows-it-takes-a-lot-to-bend-new-iphones/]Here[/url”>http://consumerist.com/2014/09/26/consumer-reports-test-shows-it-takes-a-lot-to-bend-new-iphones/]Here[/url</a>] is Consumerist’s description of the work - Consumerist is run by CR - and [url=<a href=“http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/25/6845611/inside-apples-iphone-6-torture-building]here[/url”>Inside the building where Apple tortures the iPhone 6 - The Verge]here[/url</a>] is a link to The Verge’s report on Apple’s own stress testing of iPhones.</p>
<p>I don’t get the point of making phones so thin and light that a case is necessary. I just replaced my phone (not an iPhone!) – my old phone was thin so I always kept it in a case, the new phone is slightly larger, not a thin shell, and is clearly sturdy enough to withstand normal use without a case. The old phone with the case is about the same weight, but is thicker than the new phone without the case. I don’t mind buying a case if I have to - but I just don’t understand what possible benefit one gets from purchasing a phone where a thick case is obligatory. Why don’t they just design the phone shells out of sturdier materials in the first place? About the only benefit I can see from the skinny phones is more choices for telephone dress-up – I’ve had the same dumb bright red case on my old phone for 4 years<em>, but I guess I could have been buying a fancier wardrobe for my phone over the years. (</em>I also don’t get the new-phone-every-year thing either… in my family, our phones always outlast the 2-year contract, though the kids tend to replace their phones a little more often than I do.)</p>
<p>calmom- Well, I guess you have your own unique view of it… Many people use the phones without cases and like the thinness. I am afraid of dropping it and cracking the glass, so I prefer a thick case. It isn’t a big deal, since it is usually in a purse, a back jeans pocket, or in my hand. I wish I felt more comfortable with a thinner case- but I don’t. The upside is that I am able to resell my old phones for what I think is a lot of money. I will be getting $234 from Amazon for my iPhone 5. I only paid $200 for it, so I’m happy with that.</p>
<p>As I mentioned before, I appreciate being able to adapt my phone to its use.
I don’t use the same bag or purse everyday no matter what I’m doing, I want my phone which goes everywhere with me to have the same adaptability.
An Otterbox case when I am skiing/ white water rafting, a wallet case for every day and an extended battery case when I am going to be out using the camera extensively.
I would need several different models of phones if I was not going to be using cases.
It is much easier & cheaper to have one basic phone and several cases.</p>
<p>Even when I had a thicker phone and when I had a blackberry, I had a case. Kept it from getting scratched up or banged up from normal wear and tear. The case I currently have isn’t as easily gripped as I might like. I will give it a few weeks to get used to it and if I want a more rubberized one, I’ll wait til the market is flooded with them. </p>
<p>Ok so the joke on tv is just because you get an iPhone 6s that doesn’t mean you get to sit in your ass.</p>
<p>I wanted to chime on here and say that my D decided to go to a basic phone and an iPad mini with a data plan from Verizon. She’s been happy with it so far. The only problem is that I forget and text her pictures instead of emailing them. </p>
<p>She was dropping her phone a lot and it finally broke. She didn’t have insurance on the phone and Verizon is not allowing early upgrades on phones like they did in the past. I think she got insurance on the mini. Not sure if that was the right thing or not. </p>