I know. I don’t know how he does it. It’s the Wahoo Kickr trainer with all the metrics displayed on a monitor in front of him. I think when he was gearing up to qualify for Kona a few years ago he did an even longer indoor ride when he was home here. I think he is trying to qualify for half ironman worlds this year. He has a number of challenges in his life, so we shall see…
Think I would have to put my trainer over the top of the basement drain if I rode for 3 hours.
New low carb study - https://news.osu.edu/news/2015/11/16/against-grain/ - but we knew that didn’t we Idad!
MOWC, what program is your son using with the Wahoo? Also, does he occasionally have an issue with the resistance spiking way out of target range for a second or two and then returning to the programmed range like nothing had happened? I experience that occasionally when using Trainer Road.
MOfWC, good luck to your kiddo. Hope he overcomes his challenges soon.
Just came out of a Lulu store. Got a singlet and a pair of colorful Wunder Unders - why not?
There was a lot of stuff on the sale rack still! The gym bags were gone though very quickly. Two friends saw that they were priced at $59 and were so excited that there two bags, so they did not have to fight over who got the bag. 
Trainer Road. He says that would be the trainer and not the program.
Thanks, Bunsen. Did you get the pink multi striped Wunder Unders? Thin horizontal stripes? I got those.
So frustrating we have no local Lulu store except one of the Lulu “showrooms” with very limited product. The closest store is an hour away.
MOfWC, I got the blue version of that Wunder Under. I like it a lot. There is a lot of stuff online in the WMTM section!
Michael, Mr. axed the free standing version of the pull-up bar as well. Safety is his main concern. What if I fall down with the contraption?! Lol. But he is ok with me running on a chunk of coarse sandpaper moving at the speed of 7-7.5 mph. Go figure.
I think I’ll just get the one I bookmarked earlier (after getting recs here), and give it to me as a Christmas present. 
Bunsen, which one did you finally bookmark for yourself?
MOWC, I updated the firmware on the Wahoo. I guess the next step is an email to Wahoo. Fortunately, it only happens once every 5-10 workouts and even then, just once for a second or 2 within a given workout, so it’s not a tremendous disruption. It just wakes me up real quick when the wattage suddenly jumps by 50% and I’m already hovering around FTP or am doing a recovery interval lol.
Maybe you should get an Airdyne in honor of iDad!
MOfWC, that is not a bad idea. I think Mr. will get a kick out of it. Especially if I tie a macro lens he covets - packaged in a pretty box - to it. 
Michael, I have to dig the bookmark out on my other 'puter. 
ohio, interesting article and it would be even more interesting to read the entire study. I would be very circumspect about the conclusions drawn from it, however, and what it really means for athletes who are not ultra-endurance athletes and for the general public. Consider the following:
- The test population was very skewed - elite level ultra-enduance athletes.
- On day 1, the subjects were tested to determine VO2 max. There is no indication of how long the athletes were required to maintain VO2 max intensity or whether they were required to go anaerobic and if so for how long.
- On day 2, the intensity was at 64% VO2 max, which is a level of intensity where you would expect fat to be the primary fuel source. The study seems to suggest that the subjects who ate a low carb high fat diet had reprogrammed their metabolic pathways to more efficiently access fat as a primary fuel source at this intensity level. That's great for those who are competing in ultra-endurance events where the longer and more efficiently you can access fats, the longer time wise and farther in distance you can go. Unanswered, however, is what would happen over the course of the same test time of 3 hours (or longer) if the intensity were increased 80-85% VO2 max.
- It is very unclear how this diet would impact on other types of athletes who rely on power or who compete at closer to anaerobic thresholds or higher - like track cyclists, crit racers, time trailers, sprinters, milers, powerlifters etc.
- The protein limit of 19% could be low depending on a person's individual needs. We generally need a minimum of about .5 gms of protein per body pound to maintain basic tissue rebuilding and as much as 1 gm per body pound depending on the type of fitness training you do. If you assume a 150 lb person on a 2000 calorie/day diet, 19% comes to 95 gms. For that 150 lb person, the general base need would be 75 gms. That doesn't leave much for the type of muscle repair and growth needed by performance athletes. The study does not appear to have looked at the long term effect of this level of protein intake on athletes who place extreme demands on their bodies or who need more protein to achieve certain training goals that require building more muscle tissue. 6.. And finally, what does this mean for the general public and should it really be used as a basis to change eating patterns. Consider this. On a 2000 calorie/day diet, the 10% low carb limits found in the study would equal 50 gms of carbs/day. What would that mean in terms of eating fruits and vegetables that provide essential vitamins, minerals and other needed micro-nutrients. A medium sweet potato has about 40 gms of carbs. A medium apple has about 22 gms. A cup of broccoli has about 10, a cup of carrots has 12, an Ezekial muffin has 28, a glass of milk has 12, a banana has 27. It doesn't take long to exceed 50 gms of carbs in a well balanced nutritious meal plan. In contrast, for that same 2000 calorie daily allowance, the 70% of fat equals1400 calories or 156 gms of fat. What kinds of foods would be consumed to reach those levels and what would the nutritional and health impact be? If obtained from foods that are generally considered healthy, what would the costs be (organic salmon, cashews, almonds at $12/lb or more) and how would you stay within the protein limits of 19%.
So, I think the study is interesting and raises a lot of important questions. But like any extreme diet, I think it needs to be looked at very carefully before a conclusion is reached that it’s an appropriate way to eat. I know I’m not going to be adopting it any time soon :).
So excited… The person I was worried about finished the Seattle Marathon! I guess I will hear about it on Tuesday. 
- And one more thought. The study didn't look at performance in a measured or timed event. Given the increased efficiency in accessing fat, one would assume that the low carb high fat group would be able to run longer distances before their energy sources expired because our bodies have more fat based energy supplies than glycogen supplies. But this is not the same as who could run a set distance the fastest. Another unanswered question worth looking at in a future study.
Thanks to all for the “emotional support.” H’s chat with the priest went very well, and, as I had hoped, he did tell H to chill. IMO, part of H’s distress was because he was concerned with what others might say/think – like maybe he had a done a bad job of parenting because D is now questioning some of the Catholic Church teachings. It’s a little hard to put it all into words here, but H came back from that talk in a MUCH better place. We were with H’s side of the family (all Catholic, at least in upbringing) for Thanksgiving – and EVERY single person was SO pleased/excited/happy for D that H started realizing that the whole religion thing is just NOT the issue he had made it out to be. H plans to sit down with D tomorrow night for another “chat,” which should go much better than the last one. Then, hopefully, we can be done with all of that and move on with the fun and planning.
I’ve done more walking than running over the last several days, but at least I’ve been out there! Thanksgiving morning I took the “puppy” for a very l-o-n-g walk through various parts of the Harvard campus and surrounding area. It was lovely and sunny – and almost eerily quiet. Yesterday morning I was in my hometown; it was 26 when I went out so I ended up running just to stay warm!
That sounds very encouraging, CBB!
I realized that I have “found” some of the 8 pounds that I lost last summer. I am back to the food log as well as the treadmill. Thirty minutes of walking and walk/run intervals this morning. I just have to stick with it.
The scale was a rude awakening this morning. I got plenty of exercise but I also ate plenty of food. What’s the saying, you can’t outrun a bad diet? Uh, yeah. Right there with you, FallGirl!
Great news CBBB! Kudos to your husband for being willing to reevaluate his thinking.