I’m not saying a grandchild’s birthday should come into play, but I believe coronations occur several months after the previous monarch dies; not tied to May or June, but to an appropriate mourning period.
That was helpful, thank you. I didn’t realize options were limited to Saturdays in May or June. I still wonder at what point he realized it was Archie’s birthday or if he cared, but we will never know. I have no side in this, BTW, just curious.
We never had our oldest child’s birthday party on her birthday. Well, we kinda did. We opened gifts from the immediate family - two parents and two siblings - sang Happy Birthday and ate cake in the afternoon. An actual party with other family and her school friends etc. took place whenever. Tis what happens when you’re born on Christmas Day.
Maybe King Charles looked forward to Archie being in the U.K. for his birthday, similar to the way his sister was. The Sussexes could have celebrated Archie’s birthday with his U.K. relatives (grandparents/aunts and uncles/a multitude of cousins) had all been well.
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Doubtful. This is a family divided. I doubt Harry and William are even speaking.
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A fair bit longer than “the last 2”.
Actually the last one not scheduled for May or June was in 1831 (Edward VII’s coronation in 1902 was postponed to August because the king was sick):
What’s new is the decision to have it on a Saturday. But that was apparently something the government wanted.
I stand corrected
I don’t really give a flying fart whether Harry and/or Meghan do or do not go to the coronation party. Whatever they do or do not do in their lives, somebody’s going to be upset about it. And then other people will be upset that people are upset about it. Or upset that people are talking about it. Or upset that people have opinions about it. It goes on and on. Like, some are upset that Meghan isn’t joining Harry on this leg of the worldwide privacy tour.
None of this really matters in the grand scheme of things.
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I think the only “upset” people are the family and organizers. Are you implying people on this forum are upset?
Also out of curiosity, if you don’t give a hoot, why are you on this thread?
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This is getting interesting.
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I’m not an active member of this thread nor have I had a lifelong fascination with the Royals - just your average American tuning into Royal big events/breaking news.
I just finished Spare as an audiobook. I’m not a seasoned audiobook listener. I’m convinced that audiobook was the way to go with this title. I thought Harry did a great job of giving the words a story. His voice is very pleasant to listen to. Pretty eye opening for me and also I have to say, I do believe his mother’s death really damaged his emotional development. It astounds me that for so many years he truly felt she wasn’t dead, just hiding. That is so, so sad.
Anyway, it was a 16 hour listen. I listened while driving and also made it my walking listen. I found all parts of it - even the army section which would normally NOT be interesting to me - to be interesting.
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That is indeed very interesting!
I have a friend who just got back London. She is so fun and friendly and extrovert extraordinaire. Easy to make friends with strangers. She said in her FB that Charles is not popular, Camilla barely tolerated, Harry is an arse, but Meghan, boy oh boy she is loathed.
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We just had a delightful British server at a restaurant last night who said essentially the same thing.
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We were in Scotland last September–flew out from US the day QEII died, and was there in country the day of her funeral.
There was much affection for the late queen, especially from older folks. A waitress was almost in tears in a cafe, explaining to us the history of the Coronation Chicken that was on the menu that day. Every city and town, big and small, had impromptu memorials for the queen at the local WWI memorial or city hall–lots of flowers and notes.
Charles OTOH is not well liked. I think lots of it stems from his treatment of Diana. All that could have been avoided if QEII had let him marry Camilla back in the day. She also caused heartache for Margaret for the same thing, not letting her marry a divorced man.
I find it so ironic that Elizabeth was the head of a church that was founded SPECIFICALLY so Henry VIII could divorce Catherine of Aragon, yet divorce among royals was a black mark. I want to scream “your church exists because of divorce!!!”
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This is a common misconception. Henry VIII’s marriage to Katherine of Aragon was annulled. The Church of England was established because the Roman Catholic Church would not grant the annulment.
Technically, she did not prevent Margaret from marrying Group Captain Peter Townsend. However, had she done so, she would no longer be in the line of succession.
I’ll grant you that.
RE: Margaret, my comment tried to focus more on the heartbreak it all caused–you’re splitting hairs to an extent–of course she couldn’t stop her from marrying, but it would have meant losing her family and royal position, etc.
RE: annulment vs divorce. Annulment is a semantics thing used in the Catholic church to grant “divorces”. If you have enough $$ to pay canon lawyers, you can get even marriages that produced several children annulled in the Catholic church–one of the Kennedys did. Henry VIII probably didn’t care what you called it as long as he could move on to wifey #2!
Charles mistreated Diana to be sure, but Diana didn’t behave ideally either. She was thrown into a situation she was ill-prepared for (even for the daughter of an earl). Living a jet setting life post-divorce was not the classiest way to handle things. And yes, Charles behaved like a dink.
I know The Crown is largely fiction, but I find it interesting that in the early seasons I found Charles to be a sympathetic figure, but then started disliking him more and more as the seasons progressed.
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And they are so disliked that millions will sleep in the streets tonight just to be part of the celebration.
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I stood in line overnight for 10 hours to say goodbye to the Queen. I won’t even turn the TV on tomorrow. That’s how much I dislike my King.
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That’s what we saw in Scotland during the lead-up to her funeral—there was clearly affection for Elizabeth, some of the notes on the flowers left at memorials were quite poignant.
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Oh, and she said everyone is still in love with Diana