“Forget all that nonsense about multiple chicks in the club. Fetty is 100. He’ll cook pies with you. Pies.”
Not sure if the points been made, but the pies Fetty Wap is referencing aren’t the baked goods :)) @Niquii77
Man, if I had $5 dollars for everyone who has spoken on or PMed me about this matter, I’d be able to buy my own pie! B?#*@& better have my money!
Anywho, I don’t know why doing drugs with the bae isn’t seen as romantic. Holding pinkies together while you do a line? How more legit can you get?
Rap and Hip Hop is music to me. This discussion made me look into some of the lyrics of the music I listen to and there’s some great one liners by Gambino, The Weeknd is extremely poetic, and Drake doesn’t have to use metaphors to say what needs to be said.
Childish Gambino - You See Me
I’m on my ish, call it
I watch these haters take they shots like they were alcoholics
“What is he wearing? Somebody jack that fool’s steeze”
If I’m a f**** spell it right, I got way more than two G’s*
There’s another really great one in this song, but the play on words, while has zero curse words, is vulgar.
The Weeknd - Can’t Feel My Face
And I know she’ll be the death of me, at least we’ll both be numb
And she’ll always get the best of me, the worst is yet to come
But at least we’ll both be beautiful and stay forever young
This I know, yeah, this I know
Beautiful personification seen in many, many of his songs.
Drake - Marvin’s Room
*Cups of the Rosé, [girls] in my old phone
I should call one and go home, I’ve been in this club too long
The woman that I would try is happy with a good guy
But I’ve been drinking so much that I’mma call her anyway and say
F*** that [guy] that you love so bad
I know you still think about the times we had
I say f*** that [guy] that you think you found
And since you picked up, I know he’s not around*
Baby Boy Drake.
You have your music that you want to get down to, vibe to, chill to, get hype with, and whatnot. There’s a range. Not all rap and hip hop songs, or any music for that matter, needs to fulfill some sort of “musicality” or be filled with metaphors and a “deeper understanding of what makes real music real music”. You’ve got your Young Thug - Stoner and then you have Jidenna - Classic Man.
77,
You are not a parent are you? I ask that with all due respect. You might feel slightly differently one of these days when you become a parent and you have all the responsibilities that go with it. Just saying.
Yay for the K’naan reference up thread! I love him. Here’s my favorite of his songs:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=APw9ES0JpZo
I also like Speech Debelle, especially this song:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9zj-yZlyS98
And with less musicality, maybe, but with incredible lyrics that are truly amazing, there’s Kate Tempest, who is winning major literary prizes for poetry:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQBOUnF0So
Anyone else listening to Kate Tempest?
And then there’s one of my old-favorite summer strut songs that says “Summer in LA” to me – Ozomatli’s Cut Chemist Suite. Very hard to argue that Ozomatli lacks musicality!!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bjb9i5r9inc
I’m not a particular rap fan but I have eclectic tastes and think it is a bit ridiculous to write off a whole genre.
@ 63,
I followed your first link. K’nann is talented. I gave him a minute, thought I’d hate it, figured he’d be crude, lewd and without talent, I was wrong. Thanks for the link.
@GoNoles85 Are you referring to me when you said “77”?
@nottelling “Take A Minute” is some feel good music right there! I liked it. adds music to Spotify
Oh, and did I mention the gushing, glowing review that Kate Tempest got for her WRITTEN poetry from none other that Michiko Kakutani in the NY Times? Here’s the first paragraph of the review:
“A wunderkind rapper and spoken word performer equally influenced by Wu-Tang Clan and Joyce, Bukowski and Blake; an English poet whose musical sense of language bridges the worlds of rap and traditional lyric verse; a fan favorite at the Glastonbury music festival who became the youngest winner of the Ted Hughes poetry prize. Such dichotomies not only attest to the 29-year-old Kate Tempest’s gift for shattering — and transcending — convention and conventional genres, but they also underscore the tensions and contradictions that fuel her dynamic art.”
There is some amazing work being done in the rap genre.
I’ve written this assuming that you are, but if you’re not then this is just reading material. 
No, I am not a parent. Amen to that! I am simply a young woman. I completely understand a parent’s position when it comes to rap/hip hop music and raising their children with upstanding values. There’s songs out there degrading women, promoting drug use and a nonchalant view on life and its problems. I totally get it. It’s concerning and problematic. Who knows what your kid is taking in when they hear these catchy songs on the music and not even paying attention to the weight of the words?
Because I am not a parent, I do not know how I would handle my child’s music tastes and interests. I’m not a parent so…, but what I will say is I believe there is more than what your child listens to when it comes down to how your child behaves, believes, and upholds in life. I should ask my mom how she raised kids who never got pregnant or arrested, had little to zero disciplinary problems, who all attended college, and are pleasant and have a strong grasp on morals and values…who all listened to rap and hip hop music. My hunch is that it started much earlier than when we started listening to that kind of music and continued on through her expectations of us and the examples she set.
I do not believe a person’s liking to rap/hip hop music is a window to how the person is intellectually, emotionally, or socially. There’s so much more to a person.
running to look her up
Just wow! Still exploring!
total epiphany! Just sitting here kind of twitching . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoGzikpym3g
^:)^
So excited!!! Just listened to those first two … Hadn’t seen that barn one. Incredible!!! So glad you like her!! Thanks for the links!
My friend saw her live at SXSW this year and said she was one of the most intense performers she’d ever seen.
Unfortunately her tour just ended 
How could I forget Lupe Fiasco? He has some amazingly positive songs. Here are the lyrics to “The Show Goes On”. Some profanity, but really positive message.
@saintfan hi! Just wanted to thank you for posting that Kate Tempest “Barn Sessions” link! Not only am I now obsessed by that performance – highlighting the amazing storytelling potential of the rap genre – but I’ve also now been going down the rabbit hole of other “Barn Sessions” performances, all bands I’ve never heard of before, some better than others, but super fun to discover nonetheless! Thanks @saintfan for introducing this portal into the mix!
http://www.inthewoodsfestival.co.uk/#barn-sessions
(PS these are performances in all genres, not rap!)
I mean seriously, what the hell is this? Never would have discovered it …
And what’s w the prevalent use of ‘the N word’ in rap lyrics? I can’t even bring myself to utter that awful word out loud. Why does the black community give rappers a pass for chanting it so flippantly?
Similar to how the President used the n word. Even though he used it in context, a white person on TV, radio, etc wouldn’t be able to get away with that.
Rap music lyrics don’t bother me.
The title of this thread bothers me intensely because the plural subject doesn’t agree with the singular verb.
^^ THANK YOU Marian. Every time I see the title of this thread my grammar hackles go up.