<p>Agree Nene misplayed this. But that’s what I love – Star played her like a fiddle. Star gave her the eye, looked directly at her, when she said she “knew Nene would tell the truth about LaToya,” and Nene caved. Dumb, dumb dumb.</p>
<p>And that presentation reminded me of Whack-a-Mole. I wanted to hit the one who popped up with their word!</p>
<p>Ugh! Every week it is the same. They have so many commercials at the end I end up falling asleep before someone is kicked off and then I wake up to the news. The last thing I saw was that the men won (or I guess didn’t lose).</p>
<p>tx5athome - TIVO</p>
<p>Okay, commercial time just before the big women’s firing…</p>
<p>Nene did everything to shoot herself in the foot but, ratings are ratings and Trump hates apathetic contestants, so I think Hope will be going home after the commercial break. </p>
<p>Celebrity Apprentice is starting to look and sound more like The Jerry Springer Show!</p>
<p>I switched over to cable news when the announcement came on that Obama was going to address the nation at 10:30. Did they break away on Apprentice before the boardroom firing? Who got the axe?</p>
<p>From what I read on another message board, Hope was fired (as reported by Canadians who got to watch the whole show). I am thoroughly disgusted that NeNe was not fired - this is her second loss as PM and her outburst in front of the client was unnecessary, unprofessional, and beyond anything permissible in the business world.</p>
<p>I watched the complete show in CA beginning at 9 PM PDT. </p>
<p>^flreflyscout’s post really does sum it up nicely. The show has gotten so sleazy and thus my Jerry Springer analogy in my previous post. </p>
<p>Nene’s behavior was just shameful and would NEVER get rewarded by non-action in the real (business) world. For him not to dismiss her over her actions says a lot about Donald Trump’s integrity, IMHO.</p>
<p>Let’s not forget: this show really isn’t about business at all. It’s about messy drama and therefore ratings, plain and simple. Donald Trump has made his money. The rest is just gravy. He’s having a good time watching his contestants clown and go at each other. It’s all entertainment for him and he’s banking on the fact that it will be the same for his audience. You cannot take this show seriously, in a true business sense.</p>
<p>SPOILER ALERT:</p>
<p>That damned bully Nene, I KNEW her bark was bigger than her bite! She got her little feelings hurt (as usual), picked up her ball and went home! And I’m glad for it! I’m glad that Trump called her out on it, too. It’s going to be difficult from this point out watching the rest of these folks get weeded out, because I like them all. Meatloaf’s constant emotional breakdowns are starting to annoy me somewhat, but he really is a good guy.</p>
<p>Shame, shame, shame. They eliminated Star instead of Meatloaf. The “sweetie” and “dear” was totally inappropriate. They showed the upcoming episode promo and Meatloaf is having a meltdown…again. But this show is totally ratings, not business.</p>
<p>Bad call. I was really looking forward to a John/Star finale.</p>
<p>SPOILER ALERT - DON’T READ TILL AFTER YOU WATCH THE SHOW…</p>
<p>I’m glad Star is gone. I’m also a female attorney and have had my share of being called sweetie, honey and dearie. I ALWAYS analyze it from the POV of who is saying it. Meatloaf is an older Southern guy and I don’t believe he was saying it to be patronizing, I think that it was just him. When I first began practicing almost 30 years ago, so many men called me sweetie or dearie just because it was how they were raised. I would only get annoyed and tell the guy off if I felt he should have known better (e.g., he was my age). The plus for me was that I was one of the few young female attorneys who wouldn’t go ballistic on an old guy for saying sweetie or the like and I became very well-liked by those men and they would talk to me. I learned so much more from them by smiling and understanding than by blowing a Star Jones hissy fit. I also personally found it offensive that she told Meatloaf that she would only debate with people who have her credentials! Who the hell does she think she is! </p>
<p>As for Nene, I was disappointed that she up and quit. I was really hoping she was going to kick Star’s butt! My respect for LaToya grew when she convinced The Donald to give her her job back.</p>
<p>I so prefer the men on this show. I had never heard of either Little John or John Rich before this show and I am very impressed with both of them. LJ is clearly a smart and talented guy. John Rich just seems like such a nice guy. I really liked it when he told Meatloaf he’d donate the money if he lost the challenge. I was a little disappointed that he didn’t do the same for LJ’s charity at the end of the night because it was a joint effort that won them the On Star challenge (though the seat belt thing was a doozy).</p>
<p>Finale night is my birthday - can’t wait…</p>
<p>While Meatloaf’s words might have been condescending that was not what the point was, it was just another tactic of Star’s. I am so glad she is gone, she is manipulative and controlling and just plain evil. Her strategy this time was to “sit back” and let others make the decisions but she was in charge of product information and was bragging about that before it turned out to be the key element for firing. She also was adamant that they didn’t need to shoot the box while they were still in the studio, I don’t know what happened in the editing room regarding that (was I walking the dog or did they not show it?) but from what I saw she had no interest in the box. She can’t boast about how good she is and then blame others for the lack of product information.</p>
<p>I think Marlee is next to go, not sure about which male, but Marlee is, IMHO, next fired.</p>
<p>From my perspective, I thought Marlee was a weak PM for the On Star assignment and should have been held more accountable for the finished product. Meat Loaf was coming off another “unprecedented” emotional display, on the previous task during tonight’s show, that really seemed to tug on Donald Trump’s heartstrings. I think that affected Trump’s decision to some extent. I also think Trump cut Marlee some slack as the PM because of her hearing impairment. I usually am the one to say Trump bases his decisions on the ratings, but I do not feel that came into play tonight.</p>
<p>To me, it will be a hard chice between the Johns. I know JR brought in more mony, but when he didn’t feel well, LJ stepped up to the plate. Too bad about the seat belt</p>
<p>I think when NeNe heard what the task was (raising money), she knew she would lose. She had used her only big money contact (RHONY’s Jill) in an earlier task. In my opinion, she quit before her weakness could be exposed (and exploited by Star). Much as I dislike Star, she at least has some brains and a voice that doesn’t make me want to run for the mute button.</p>
<p>My guess for the final two is John and Marlee, since they were the ones who raised the biggest amount of money, which The Donald respects above all else.</p>
<p>I was so glad he fired Star! She is such a piece of work!! But, that being said, Meatloaf’s instability makes me uncomfortable.</p>
<p>While I would not defend all of Star’s behavior, I thought her explanation of why she was bothered by being called “sweetie” was excellent. She said that had it been in a social situation, she would have been OK with it. But, in a professional/debate context, it was condescending.</p>
<p>I agree with her 100%, and I’m glad she brought it up. It isn’t 20 or 30 years ago. “Sweetie”, “Dearie”, “Honey” etc. should not be used today by a man or a woman in a professional conversation.</p>
<p>My dh was watching with me and said that Star made a good point about the professional setting and why it’s inappropriate. Trump blew that out of proportion as an excuse to get rid of her. I guess he likes the instability that Meatloaf brings.</p>
<p>Definitely should be John and Marlee.</p>
<p>Star is such a liar… blatantly. She refused to take responsibility for her lack of brand messaging. If she didn’t have anything to do with the script/video, then what was she doing the entire task? She is quick to take praise and slow to take responsibility. </p>
<p>I also found her comment in an earlier episode about NeNe exceptionally offensive. She said “You can see the difference between me, an educated black woman, and NeNe, who lacks any formal education.” Implying that the reason NeNe is NeNe is because she lacks a college degree and that this makes NeNe useless. How racist and plain offensive. Star obviously thinks she is above everyone else, including when she told Meat Loaf to “come to me as soon as your resume is on par with mine.” WOW. She deserved to go, as talented as she was.</p>