Neither who? Am making a general comment about the NOLA police, not about any particular person (or poster).
Anyone remember xiggi? Her posted once, a long time ago, that there was a study done to review the NOLA police and make recommendations for improvement. The recommendation was to get rid of them and start over!
I enjoy Fridays with Frank. But when he demands to see ID after pulling someone over for a traffic infraction, he is completely justified and backed by Arizona law for doing so. Seems pretty different from some of the scenarios that have been presented (being asked for ID when not operating a vehicle or committing any kind of legal infraction whatsoever, having given zero hint of probable cause, etc).
I am a law abiding citizen, but if a LEO officer demanded I produce ID in a situation where he had no justifiable reason for doing so, I would be highly offended. Would I refuse even though I had a right to do so? Probably not, but not because I felt grounded in my belief that I have nothing to hide, simply because I’m averse to escalation and in general not particularly brave.
With all the talk of understaffed police and long response times, are there really LEOs who make random stops for no apparent reason? Isn’t everyone pretty busy these days?
Camden, NJ actually did that (got rid of its police department and built a new one from the ground up) in 2013.
Oooh- deriding the residents of NOLA (as opposed to saying neither poster is a NOLA resident, which is what it sounded like it said). I initially misread the tone and content of the critical comment.
It’s often the tourists who account for much of the debauchery in the French Quarter. The residents of New Orleans might take exception to those remarks.
This is sad.
Based on an actual case, I think that the couple who were victimized in above Netflix series would consider the police their friends after crime,
Rephrasing my above post: i don’t think the couple who were victimized by police in above Netflix series would consider the police their friends
The stress response is involuntary, and happens to every human being. It’s classic fight or flight. Law enforcement officers experience this phenomenon more often than most professions.
I’d say my son has to wrestle or fight someone that is resisting at least twice a month, judging from our conversations. Those that think nothing of fighting with law enforcement aren’t your average, everyday people. How many people physically attacked you at work last month? When it happens to him, he’s all alone, in the middle of the night, with back up minutes away. He’s become very aware of the potential danger he could face at any moment during his 12 hour shifts.
FDR summed it up well: “Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the assessment that something else is more important than fear.”
I have been slapped full on across the face once by a police officer and shoved quite hard deliberately by another. These were two separate incidents, one in my late teens and the other in my early twenties. Those incidents were enough for me to remain very frightened by the sight of a cop. But to be fair, all of my other (rare) contacts with them since that time have been fine. And the couple of times that I have been pulled over for speeding, I was given a warning not a ticket so I’ve felt grateful about that. Nevertheless, I constantly worry that my teens, particularly my son will encounter a rogue police officer.
Do you mind sharing what the circumstances were?
There is never a reason to be slapped across the face by another person. There isn’t a scenario where that is the correct course of action. To even ask is to in some ways blame the victim of violence. Outrageous.
I don’t think asking for details is in any way blaming the victim or condoning the act-more of a response of OMG, what happened? I actually read it as quite supportive of what must have been a scary event for poster; I would ask the same of anyone-friend, relative, whatever.
Maybe we could show each other some grace before jumping to conclusions.
It’s a very odd response by an officer that makes no sense to me, hence my question.
Well, it didn’t make a ton of sense to me either! However, in one incident, which was in an outdoor crowd, I can at least sort of imagine that it is possible the officer misjudged the situation rather than deliberately setting out to hurt anyone. Still no one in the crowd was being aggressive, and the situation was not volatile. It is not like it was a riot or violent protest; it was just a crowd. Maybe it was the case of poor training or something. In the other incident, it was out of the line of sight of anyone else, I couldn’t move, and it was clearly a deliberate act of violence and humiliation on the part of the cop to show his power. Ugh, and now that I am going down this particular PTSD like memory lane, I am remembering a third incident, which involved two officers and several young people including me. One deliberately roughed a friend up while the other cop watched indifferently and said… nothing. Yuck. It was all a long time ago and very scary. I don’t care to think about it anymore. As I said before, all of my interactions with police officers since that time have been fine.
I’m truly sorry you had to deal with those situations. Thanks for the clarification.
Thank you, I appreciate the sympathy.
If I’m not mistaken, @Alqbamine32 isn’t white. Perhaps that was an important “circumstance”.