Maybe the kardashians are of interest to people in your circle… They are an embarassment to most reasonable people. And thats more than .01% of the population.
They aren’t in the local news here either. There is plenty of local news about different things at Emory. This chalk gate thing died quickly, as it should. And its quickly dying elsewhere because its much ado about nothing! It was an embarrassment for a day or two. And the brunt of jokes on the comedy channel. Now its yesterday’s news.
It has Latino and Black cultural centers (white students are welcome too). I think you’d agree that a swastika painted on a synagogue takes on a meaning that is perceived as more threatening than it would be if painted on a random sidewalk. If the Build a Wall stuff was deliberately aimed at Latino students, it’s a little different. Free speech, fair, not illegal, etc…but that would suggest that whoever put it there did so hoping to get a reaction, and would not be “surprised” as you said in your earlier post.
Well first of all, Emory has students that are not American citizens. More than 20% of them, in fact.
Why would Emory students - especially Hispanic ones - have a problem with that, is the actual question. I can think of a few reasons. You can’t?
just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t get to say it.
that is the issue.
“just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t get to say it.”
in 2016 on a college campus that is not true
1984 and animal farm come to mind!
@soccerguy315 Just because you say something doesn’t mean other people don’t get to say what they think about it.
The actual issue is that people disagree. Which is a pretty big “so what” on a college campus that will work itself out between the involved parties. But in the meantime, certain news sites and their followers will wail and moan about an imaginary loss of First Amendment rights.
Even the (student) chair of the Emory College Republicans is using terms like “trivial concerns and histrionic displays” to describe the reaction of some students, and the situation has been described as a “frantic overreaction” and “appeasing campus loudmouths”.
Appeasing them how? Letting them protest and listening?
Probably so, @OHMomof2 . I think they were referring to the university president talking to them and saying he’d have the security footage from one of the nearby buildings reviewed and the identified “offender” punished. I think I read somewhere that the chalk writing on the sidewalks is limited to certain ares of campus, so maybe there will be some consequence to “writing outside the lines” or something. http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/03/28/student-emory-appeasing-campus-loud-mouths-trump-chalk-hysteria/. (Note: this is not a neutral site)
Has anyone posted the dean of campus life’s comments? https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2016/03/28/context-controversy-over-trump-chalkings-emory-university-essay
》》Why would Emory students - especially Hispanic ones - have a problem with that, is the actual question. I can think of a few reasons. You can’t? 《《
Well, I’m being facetious. I’ve heard the talking points, but discussing those would likepy spin into an immigration debate, which I doubt would be appreciated. If Hispanic students who are here legally feel personally threatened by Trump’s wall, I’d say that shows that they are very liberal students who choose to misunderstand what Trump is trying to do. That’s their freedom to feel that way. And, seeing as that theory of noses bent out shape comes from “Young Democrats of Emory” I find it a leap to assume that is an unbiased judgement that should be taken at face value. Note that they said “for example.” The “Build a Wall” could have been put other places too. The person who did it may not even have been an Emory student, or unfamiliar with that part of campus. There’s too much we don’t know to suppose that the placement was intended to be racist.
As for the swastika analogy, everyone knows what that signifies in today’s world, so I don’t really see how location makes a huge difference. It is not universally agreed apon what Trump’s wall means. Some could see it as a way to keep America safe enough that the biggest problem people have to deal with is some chalk on some steps, which on the scale of things, changes nothing. I really don’t think that anyone who wasn’t already going to vote for Trump is now suddenly going to after seeing “Build a Wall” on some steps. If people are so offended by what they think Trump will do, vote against him.
Not a single person here is arguing against allowing protests.
Where these kids crossed the line was by manipulating the school administrators to remove the chalk writing. That goes beyond just protesting and into the realm of restricting other people’s right to free speech.
^ To be fair, it could be considered vandalism, perhaps?
I believe the issue is that the school has policies about where students can write on sidewalks or wherever, with chalk, and there was something about needing to request permission in advance, which was not done.
I concur most people in Atlanta do not care about Emory. Yes Emory Healthcare employs thousands. Emory is not the beloved school in Atlanta but rather GA Tech and UGA in Athens.
Getting all worked up about Trump is ridiculous. Who are they going to call when they see a Trump bumper sticker or yard signs? If they had a job would they be demanding their coworker to be fired because they are a Trump supporter?
This is a side discussion, but the community interest in the rah-rah sports stuff is pretty much limited to Tech and UGA. This does not mean people in Atlanta “do not care” about Emory. The real issue here is that this discussion is of interest to those in academia and who are interested in discussing political and first amendment issues. That is a small subset.
I haven’t read that the administration removed the chalk writing, except perhaps some of it that was outside the area where chalk is allowed. Do you have some source on that I haven’t seen, @fractalmstr ?
However, even if they did, they’d be perfectly within their rights to do so:
You see, what the offended students could have done is take out some water bottles, dump some water on the chalk, and scrape it off. But then again, taking the bull by the horns is not a very PC thing to do, gotta sit around and whine for the administration to do something. :> They could have tried to solve the “problem” but no, they just want to pass blame and spew propaganda. KKK rally just because someone wrote “Trump 2016.” And they say that Trump supporters are crazy…
I imagine if the chalk was put there via the normal channels, they’d be in violation of school rules for doing that.
^ But if the chalk with put there through normal channels, then why was the person punished?
jym626 about the dean of campus life and his post you mentioned yesterday…his silliness got called out.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/29/heroes-emory-students-respond-to-denunciations-of-trump-chalking-with-more-trump-chalking/
emory seems to need to have a renaissance and put it’s administrators and bureaucrats threw intensive training on the fact that their personal agendas and biases should not play a role in others thought and expression on campus. maybe emory needs to make sure it hires people across a broader spectrum of thought than the current current mold all their people seem to come from.
Did you read somewhere that someone had been punished? I admit I’ve been busy today but as of yesterday no one had.