Straight from the horse’s mouth. Hopefully this is a reputable enough source for OHMomof2.
My take: The “protesters”, in this case, did indeed manipulate the president into thinking this [“unexpected” chalk writing] was an attack on diversity. That is how they are framing the issue anyway, and apparently the president fell for it.
I especially loved this implicitly hypocritical line:
Translation: We encourage the expression of ideas, as long as your ideas, speeches, and protests align with our core [liberal] beliefs. The last sentence is such a load of garbage.
And finally there is this:
A “racial justice retreat” group?? What the heck is that? A “formal process to institutionalize identification, review, and addressing of social justice opportunities and issues”. This all sounds so laughably rigid and bureaucratic for an institution that is supposed to support free speech and open dialog.
They were punished by the overall response to this situation from the school administration. The fact that James Wagner felt the need to write a formal letter on this issue speaks volumes.
@fractalmstr - no one even knows who did the chalking, how could they have been punished?
It kind of sounds like you are against protests, because you consider their concerns silly and trivial.
No one seems to be able to point to any chalk removal (other than perhaps where it wasn’t allowed to be), in fact MORE chalk of Trump stuff (see article above about the picture of him with “Make Emory great again”) has been put up and is being allowed to stay.
Seems at least a couple of posters in this thread seem to be vehemently against…things that never happened. Which IMO is par for the course with these threads.
I assure you they know, they just got so embarrassed by the creepy bureaucratic response being exposed on a national scale… the school, does not dare pursue a big brother/animal farm circus.
and how will they explain that a 1000x time before people chalk up sidewalks at emory and probably nobody has ever been punished.
because the bureaucrats would have to say this is of course not about expression it is about the unauthorized use of chalk. (alice in wonderland) but what about all the other times you ignored it?? ummmm…ummmm…
If students are responding to administration with more chalking, they are, IMO, being inappropriate, zobroward. Thats baiting, and little more. Time to ignore this silliness on campus.
it is not time to ignore the silliness on campus…you may choose to if you wish.
maybe the victims of the pc social justice warriors and the administration… peacefully make a stand with more chalk as a counter protest is a good thing. it sure took them long enough to learn.
somebody should print up T shirts that say JUST SAY NO TO CHALK and sell them ! (it would be a smash hit in the emory bubble…they could probably sell at least 10)
I have not used chalk since like 5th grade but if I did I would use all the colors of the rainbow! I am sure my parents still have a box somewhere in their garage covered in dust …
Swooosh… the sound of the post going over someone’s head.
Administration walks a delicate balance between being sensitive to students’ feelings/concerns and telling them to put on their big boy pants. No one wants another Yale mess. This stuff has led to staff departures at such places, and now the president of Vassar is stepping down next year. I agree with that decision.
For all the debate here about the locals not caring about the Emory incident, it sure got plenty of mention in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Seems like someone thought it newsworthy.
Actually, the amount of press it got in the AJC was pretty minimal. Fairly quickly relegated to the back of the metro section and an editorial or two, IIRC. Only was bigger news when it was national news. Then-- poof.
@OHMomof2, the impression the articles I’ve read give is that the frightened and offended students felt that their fear and offense took precedence over the Trump supporters’ rights to speak their mind. In other words, it seems to me that at least some of those students believe that no one should have the right to express their support for Trump on campus for the sole reason that it makes them feel “unsafe.” The students quoted don’t seem to be agreeing with you that “BOTH sides should be able to say what they want to say about it.”
It may be a just few students whose opinions are getting the most press. The majority of Emory students may very well welcome dissenting opinions and take pleasure in vigorous debate and discourse about the election. As someone who is horrified at the prospect of a certain candidate becoming POTUS, I nevertheless hope that’s so.
I do not believe they said Trump supporters can’t speak their minds, but rather that they had an issue with the overnight chalking that appeared to target them in a hostile way (by being located on or near the Hispanic and Black cultural centers). Even if that’s what they were saying, that’s still their right to say, and it’s the right of other students to disagree.
A couple of days later, another group of students chalked all the presidential candidates including Trump, with the appropriate permission and in the allowed places, apparently.
I believe about 40 students protested. On a campus of several thousand I’d say it’s safe to say it’s a vocal minority, yes.
…still, none of whom “got the chalk removed”, “needed emergency counseling” or “got the offender punished” - all claims made in this thread.
Going right to Emory, again, because I do not think the clickbait type of media has any interest in covering a story without the lies and embellishments we’ve seen thus far:
But to me THIS is the bottom line and it is common to every one of the campus protests that have been covered by certain types of media (and gleefully posted here on CC with “let’s make fun of these coddled minority kids and their touchiness”):
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"Some people chalked pro-Trump stuff, some other people protested about it.
I really don’t get why it’s such a big deal."
—ummmm no that is not what happened…
some special snowflakes demanded the president of the school act against the chalk people and he agreed until the story got national attention and the creepy administrative response was no longer going to be pursued.
so they did not counter with a different opinion like they do not like trump for this or that reason they wanted to punish those who supported trump and the administration initially agreed. that is some scary stuff!
your take on the situation is a little off.
You have a source for that @zobroward ? That the students told the school they wanted the Trump chalkers punished and that the administration was going to do it? Or is this just your personal view of the situation?