<p>I think we can agree is that kids are going to drink no matter what the law is but what do parents think about fake ID’s? I know many of my friends have ones that look pretty legit.</p>
<p>Every single student on my son’s dorm hall had a fake ID at the time of move-in freshman year. They were extremely good.
That said, I know of students who have been arrested for possession of a fake ID. Some states are quite strict and it is a felony- possession of counterfeit government identification. Also, some college towns are more vigilant about testing the authenticity of IDs. Don’t use one at Penn State. Penn, on the other hand, barely looks at the ID.<br>
I had a fake ID when I was in college, so I can’t say much. Back in the day the paper stock was sold and you typed the ID up yourself.<br>
If you have one, make sure it is the right race and age, if not your real picture.</p>
<p>Interesting. I saw DSs new drivers license and saw the see through hologram. I thought ‘Now that’s got to be hard to tamper with.’. I guess I was wrong.</p>
<p>I understand underage drinking is expected. That I can forgive. The ID, not so much. Get busted and charged for counterfeit gov’t ID, and there are any number of careers you can kiss goodby. Try getting a security clearance with that on your record.</p>
<p>It won’t be on your record. It is a money-making scheme. You have to get an expensive but low level lawyer and you get off. You do community service and your record is expunged. I haven’t seen it affect anyone’s employment or bar admissions yet. It is NOT a good move to get arrested for fake ID, which is why I recommend against using one unless you know it is a place that will just turn you away and not call the police. The fact is, many (perhaps the majority) of college students have one. Some Yale athletic recruits are given teh opportunity to buy them on their official visits to the school.</p>
<p>Wow. I never had a fake ID. However, the drinking age was 18 when I was growing up, and I figured I could wait.</p>
<p>I never carried an ID with me back in the day…no fake ID necessary.</p>
<p>My bro has one. He just lost one this summer and actually drove 4 hours just to get a new fake ID- didn’t want to wait 5 months for his 21st birthday. Sigh. I’m just a little sick of him getting into trouble.</p>
<p>However, my parents are “whatever.” They actually are a little amused that he listed his childhood hometown and state on his ID. Despite the ID not matching the actual state… I think…</p>
<p>pierre - what did you learn about “supply and demand” in Economics class?</p>
<p>I’ll agree to disagree with the class. As I said, I can live with underage drinking being a fact of college life. The ID we will not accept. Funny thing is about those high price attny’s, someone has to pay them. We will not. Our children know, put your toes over the line at your own risk. Get arrested, do not bother calling us, we will not come get you. </p>
<p>We are not “whatever”.</p>
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<p>You are a parent and you recommend using a fake ID only if “it is a place that will just turn you away and not call the police”. That’s very pathetic.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say the majority of college students have fake ID’s.</p>
<p>Every single 18 to 21 year old male college student that I know has a fake id. Few of the young women that I know do.</p>
<p>(Note: I am a parent. My kids are 23 and 25 now.)</p>
<p>I had a fake ID in college, both of my Ds did/do too. It is unlawful to use one, but we do/did it because the law is wrong - legal drinking age should be 18. I have told my Ds that I don’t object to them drinking at age 18, but they use a fake ID at their own risk.</p>
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<p>I AM a parent and I am realistic. As I said, at my son’s Ivy League college, EVERY person on the dorm hall (male AND female) arrived with a fake ID. They were proudly displaying them. I don’t want to see kids get into legal trouble, but it happens.</p>
<p>My rule was that I would find the lawyers for my kid but he had to pay the bills. :)</p>
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<p>I hope you don’t teach your children that if the law is wrong, then it is ok to break the law.</p>
<p>So if I think the law is wrong to go 60 on the freeway and I go 70, that is ok?</p>
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<p>But do you really want your kid to be like everybody else?</p>
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<p>Your kids must have been hanging around with the wrong crowd. Nobody I knew in college had a fake id. Maybe it was because I went to a commuter school and most kids had jobs and didn’t have time to get drunk every night.</p>
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<p>sort of like … if it is not legal for blacks to sit at the lunch counter than they shouldn’t sit there?</p>
<p>The 21 year-old drinking age laws have some history with a lot of parents here … the drinking age was 18 … and at the same time 18 year olds were being drafted and sent to Vietnam the drinking laws were changed and raised to 21. So 18-19-20 year olds were old enough to be drafted and sent to war and die but not old enough to have a drink. It is a law that is a little hard to understand how it has withstood legal challenge.</p>
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<p>I don’t really care what you do.</p>
<p>Adding to my post #12, neither my nor my Ds’ IDs are/were actually “fake.” They were valid IDs that belonged to other people who looked like us and (permanently) gave them to us to use. I don’t know if the legal ramifications for using this type of ID are different from using an altered or counterfeit ID.</p>
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<p>Comparing civill rights issues to drinking underage is very silly.</p>
<p>You think it is hard to understood how it has withstood legal challenge? Look at how all of these kids who are under 21 act with alcohol. Think about that and you may consider why the law is in place.</p>
<p>Respectfully, the drinking laws largely changed in 1984-1987. The US had not been drafting to Vietman since 1975.
The concept of fighting for your country, but not ordering a beer is true. The draft and the change in the drinking age did not coincide.</p>