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<p>You can research each state’s alcohol codes separately, but that is quite cumbersome. Here is a web site which has compiled information on the various states’ underage alcohol codes.</p>
<p>[APIS</a> - State Profiles of Underage Drinking Laws](<a href=“http://alcoholpolicy.niaaa.nih.gov/State_Profiles_of_Underage_Drinking_Laws.html]APIS”>http://alcoholpolicy.niaaa.nih.gov/State_Profiles_of_Underage_Drinking_Laws.html)</p>
<p>Btw, I don’t really understand the parental attitude that “I can tolerate the drinking, but I draw the line at a fake ID.” The drinking part is what can actually lead to physical harm, while the act of showing an ID that is not your own is benign, and only exists as a problem because of some words written in the Statute books.</p>
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<p>Because it is a federal offense to possess a fake ID.</p>
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<p>Nnever knew that. Thanks for the info.</p>
<p>well I think Cuse made the best point earlier:</p>
<p>If you get alcohol from a friend, your friend is responsible for anything that happens to you and if he didn’t want to be responsible, he wouldn’t and shouldn’t have provided you the alcohol. </p>
<p>However, with a bar/club, they are responsible for you if you do something stupid at their place or get into an accident later. I know some people use fake ID’s to just get into establishments but many do drink at these establishments as well. By using a fake ID, you are putting others at risk for punishment without them knowing beforehand.</p>
<p>I dunno, I guess that makes the most sense for me.</p>
<p>The use of someone’s ID that is not your is not the minor issue it used to be. With the increase of identity theft the issue is being taken more seriously. After all, if a crime is committed using your drivers license and identity then you are either going to have to admit you lent the ID with the knowledge that it will be used for illegal purposes thereby making you complicit or pretend like it was stolen thereby getting the person in trouble in deeper trouble. How much responsibility does one want to assume so someone else can have a good time?</p>
<p>As far as the drinking being the problem, yes it is. My point was why compound illegalities?</p>
<p>I’m actually rather stunned at the nonchalant attitude about it here. I’m trying to imagine this attitude being applied to shoplifting or date rape or plagiarism. There are college students who do those illegal things as well. What’s the difference? That we haven’t accepted those acts as permissible laws to break?</p>
<p>I’m amazed at all the libertarians here. You know, the ones who think it’s a civil right to drink to the point of hospitalization or the ones who think because the drinking age laws are unjust they have no obligation to follow them, or circumvent laws by committing a felony and acquiring a fake government issued ID. Of course all those libertarian tendencies end at the voting booth where, I’d wager a majority of them cast votes for the candidates, regardless of party affiliation, who are steadily increasing government involvement in our lives.</p>
<p>Anyway, what all the fake ID advocates fail to consider is that fake ID businesses are not in business solely for the purpose of aiding underage drinkers. Sure, that’s a big portion of their business but these people also sell ID’s to financial fraudsters, illegal immigrants, and potential terrorists. So bully for you - you have your fake ID - you’ve now helped scammers (or worse) hurt the rest of us. Bravo.</p>
<p>And none of you think about the collateral consequences of the fake ID drinkers. You all know about the 17 year old who died recently in New York (the US ambassador’s child). If you’ve read anything, you also know that the person she met at the bar got arrested for giving her alcohol, and he genuinely may have thought her to be of age given that they met at a bar where she was carded. And that bar (bottle club) is in deep as well, all because a fake ID wielding civil rights pioneer could bring herself to follow the law.</p>
<p>What will the libertarian parents of the young men think when their darling sons meet the fake ID wielding 16 year old girl at a college bar. The two get drunk together, go back to the dorm, have sex, and then the girl passes out, goes to the hospital in an ambulance, and is retrieved by the parents. “Your honor, she had a fake ID,” isn’t going to stop your darling son from becoming a registered sex offender.</p>
<p>Society has to draw lines and just because you or your child doesn’t like the lines, you’re not free to ignore them.</p>
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<p>This is why they should use the same technology that the airports use to determine if the ID is fake or not. I guess it wouldn’t stop people using other people’s ID’s (that are not fake) though.</p>
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<p>I completely agreee, except plagarism isn’t against the law. You can be expelled from school, but can’t go to jail.</p>
<p>Well said speihei. Unfortunately, these parents will keep making excuses for their children and think they are above everybdoy else and the law.</p>
<p>Not sure George Harrison would agree with the idea that plagiarism isn’t against the law. Well, if he could that is. No he didn’t go to jail but he sure paid a hefty price.</p>
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<p>But he made money off plagiarizing. You don’t make money directly from plagiarizing in school.</p>
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<p>And our kids are just such derelicts.</p>
<p>I’m not up on all the laws related to plagiarism but I do know that if’s it’s a copyright offense then there is a possibility of jail time. I know cuz I see it every time I fire up the Bluray. :)</p>
<p>Seriously, the whole point was there are laws we choose to follow and those we chose not to.</p>
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<p>If you plagiarize a paper in school, you will not go to jail.</p>
<p>There is a lot of inaccurate information circulating here. It is not a federal offense to use someone else’s DL to buy alcohol. Driver licenses and alcohol sales fall under State jurisdiction, and each State has its own laws regarding these matters.</p>
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<p>I have not heard of this case, but this outcome is very surprising, considering that it is generally an affirmative defense to liability if a vendor checks ID and it was reasonable to believe that the ID was legitimate.</p>
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<p>Why would you do that? Shoplifting, date rape and plagiarism are crimes involving stealing property, or physically assaulting another person. These are very different offenses from using someone else’s DL to buy a drink, don’t you think?</p>
<p>What is the principled distinction between using a fake id to get booze and using a stolen or forged prescription to get a drug?</p>
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<p>There probably isn’t one, unless the medication is being paid for by a third party.</p>
<p>My 20 y/o just got in town to spend a couple of weeks at home before she flies overseas for her semester abroad. I asked her if everyone she knows has a fake ID. She said absolutely not-she says none of her friends do and was surprised that I assumed it was that common. She stated emphatically that getting caught with a fake ID while trying to get permission to study abroad would be one of the dumbest things she could ever do. Additionally, she said it was specifically included in her school’s honor code and could get you expelled. I figured she didn’t have one, but didn’t want to be “naive,” lol. I was relieved to hear her say that in addition to it being illegal, it was wrong to do this.</p>