<p>@fullload</p>
<p>There was a guy here who was taking like 29 engineering units last year while working full-time and he was rejected.
No ECs = No dice. </p>
<p>Wow, I didn’t realize they were that big of a deal!</p>
<p>Although I guess I can see how just blank spaces would be negatively viewed. Hopefully everyone has at leas something they can put.</p>
<p>lol, don’t listen to @bomerr, @fullload.</p>
<p>Plenty of people with no ECs other than work and other career-related stuff get in. In general, ECs aren’t even emphasized that much for transfer applicants because they generally won’t have as much time for them as freshman applicants would.</p>
<p>@Cayton
you are the exception to the rule.</p>
<p>There are plenty of ECs out there besides school related activities so working is no excuse. </p>
<p>@bomerr </p>
<p>I wasn’t talking about myself. I wasn’t working throughout community college. I had more traditional ECs instead.</p>
<p>In previous years, and even for Fall 2014 UCLA transfer applicants, work was the only thing they did outside of school, and it was enough.</p>
<p>And honestly, for many people, work is a significant obligation, one as significant, if not more, than school; many students need to work to support themselves or family and often have no time for traditional ECs, even if they’re not school-related.</p>
<p>It’s pretty asinine for UC schools not to take this into account when evaluating the applications of certain transfer students. Thankfully, they realize that many people don’t have time to be the treasurer of one club, the secretary of another, work part/full-time, <em>and</em> get great grades. Many can only get excellent grades and work, and UCs realize that.</p>
<p>If any of you don’t believe me, just look through the fall 2014 UCLA transfer decision thread and see all the people who got accepted with work being the only thing they did outside of school.</p>
<p>Whoa, Cayton, why did you add me to your “dont listen to them” list? I was arguing your exact point. Working full-time is just as relevant as EC’s.</p>
<p>@fullload </p>
<p>I aimed that comment at @bomerr, not you, @fullload. Actually, I was telling you not to listen to @bomerr.</p>
<p>Sorry for the confusion.</p>
<p>I know several successful UC transfers who worked full time and had no time to gain EC’s. They were accepted into UCLA and Cal, without issue.</p>
<p>But again, that’s with a full-time work schedule and a full load at school. Anything less, and you might want to consider padding those EC’s with something related to your major, in a volunteer capacity
.</p>
<p>The issue with that argument is for someone who is working full-time without ECs there is someone else working full-time with ECs like involvement in their local government or volunteer work at an animal shelter, etc. </p>
<p>Of course there will be some people who get in with min ECs, and especially for less popular majors. that will be the case. But for the more popular majors like bio, no ecs = gg </p>
<p>Let’s think mathematically guys!
- how many hours do you have a week? => 168
- how many times you spend going to class lecture? let’s assume 3 classes (12unit) and 2 hours lecture, 2 meetings per week => 12
- how many times you spend on doing hw? let’s assume you’re genius and just spend 3 hours for each class => 9 (only applied if you get 3.7 GPA and above)
- how much time do you spend on traveling (school, home,…)=> 10
- How much time do you spend on sleep +eating: 50
- Your personal stuff (no social network): 10
- social network: 10?
hmm, how much you left? 67
Am i missing anything? :-/ well , pretending you’re very determined, focus person and have no distraction/obligation. </p>
<p>ok now you have 67 hours to work and do EC. You can work for 40h and do 27h EC.
Sound like a good plan!!! Congratulation you’re a well-rounded candidate. You’ll get in everywhere, even for the big major like bio. </p>
<p>Well but only if you follow the schedule and no extra hours/activity though ;)</p>
<p>Ah. I have about four jobs listed under my working experience. I also explained in there that I had obligations to my parents, as we are a lower income family. And although I had volunteering experience, it didn’t feel right to put it down because I wasn’t fully involved & consistent with the program due to work. I am part of PTK but not really sure if that adds to anything… Anywho, I know not to get my hopes up 
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<p>@bomerr </p>
<p>Can’t 100% agree. EC’s for transfer applicants are not as heavily weighted compared to freshmen applicants. I’ve talked to multiple counselors at my CC who had students who successfully transferred to LA/BERK/SD without many, if not, any EC’s. Admission officers know that it’s more difficult for transfer students to have quality EC’s compared to HS students. My friend got admitted to UCLA last fall as an engineering major with no college EC’s/work experience and with a 3.8 GPA.</p>
<p>Obviously it’s ideal to have EC’s. But a lot of CC students work, therefore making it very difficult to devote a portion of their time to EC’s - admission officers know this. </p>
<p>@ahahanjun</p>
<p>" My friend got admitted to UCLA last fall as an engineering major with no college EC’s/work experience and with a 3.8 GPA."</p>
<p>seems fishy man. </p>
<p>I saw people with 3.5s and low GPAs get into impacted majors like Poli Sci because of great school related ECs.
Likewise my friend with a 3.7 and so-so ECs got rejected from UCLA bio. I don’t think think anyone got into Haas or UCLA Biz-Econ without a resume full of ECs. </p>
<p>Did anyone apply for philosophy? </p>
<p>Bomerr, I think it’s safe to say, much like the entertainment industry here in LA for which I’ve worked in for several years, no one knows sh*t. At the end of the day, it comes down to human beings deciding other human beings ability to succeed at the UC. It’s not a calculated admission response based on precise equations. It’s a balancing act of a competitive GPA, 60+ units, major prereqs gpa and completion, strong essay, and the ability to show what you accomplish in your spare time, between ECs and work. To suggest you definitively can not be accepted due to a lack of EC’s is misleading at best, and I think it’s time for you to admit your platitude is subjective.</p>
<p>Let’s move past this and celebrate the fact we’ve all made it this far, which is no small feat, and we’re all anxious and excited about the possibility of being accepted. None of us know for sure, one way or the other if we’re 100% in or not. </p>
<p>If I and @littlebill get in w/t ECs, we’ll make a thread or tag @bomerr lol. for now, nothing much to argue cos application is due in 25’. All we can do is wait</p>
<p>@bizmlover Yes! Definitely will do. </p>
<p>Best of luck to everyone who applied! Hopefully we can call one another classmates a few months from now. </p>
<p>@littlebill just curious, how many hours do you work? Does it relate to your major?</p>
<p>@bizmlover Throughout the years, it’s fluctuated. Currently, I’m at the least amount of hours I’ve ever worked, which is 20 & is what I listed… Although I could have put more to be quite honest. </p>
<p>My jobs don’t directly relate to my major (which would be research and what not), but I do make good points about tying in my major with my work experiences in my personal statement. </p>
<p>How about you?</p>
<p>@bizmlover I just saw one of your threads, working 40+ hours a week! You’re way more hardcore than I am. I shouldn’t even be complaining about my workload… Now I feel bad >_< </p>