<p>@littlebill haha no you’re doing really well. I paid a price for it. 40 hours with mediocre GPA. My works do relate to my major somehow but that’s all I have. And a PS about coming from a low income family 
but I try to think postitively. I already think about my coming years w UCD and a comeback for graduate at UCLA. Not really bad though.</p>
<p>I think many people who think ECs are very possible or accessible for people with jobs don’t understand the situation fully. </p>
<p>I ended up quitting my full time lab job (major related) to work in retail because they can work around my school schedule. I can’t choose my schedule at CC, especially since I got to higher level courses where only 1 or 2 sections are offered. Working retail, my schedule changes every week with no pattern at all, and I often have to close one night and open the next morning or do something close to this, with <8hrs between shifts. I can’t do any clubs or organized sports and attend meetings/games/practice with any consistency because it will often conflict with work. Additionally, I am more tired and devote more time travelling to/getting stuck late at my part time job than my previous full time job. I am also often more worn out from the variable schedule, although I work 10 hrs a week less. </p>
<p>Additionally, many people doing CC->UC are older and may have a family to support and children to care for. </p>
<p>For every anecdote someone has of a prime student being denied, there is a counter anecdote of a “sub-par” student being accepted. Although they do use scoring systems in admissions, the system is still nuanced and worked by people. They UCs work very hard to establish a diverse student body. They DO NOT want nothing but 4.0 GPA, 10 EC, “perfect” people. </p>
<p>Don’t let anyone who doesn’t know you tell you that you don’t have a shot. You are a unique individual and if that comes across in your application and you have proved you can academically cut it at UC you’ve got a shot. </p>
<p>Generally someone making such statements is just trying to reassure themselves that their own chances are good because they are ‘a step ahead’ of you. Many people with EC’s and great GPAs do get denied just because they aren’t unique and don’t stand out. They are just white noise. </p>
<p>I just did a quick check on the Transfer Profile this year. I figured out something, don’t know if it’s true though.
Bad news: 300 more people enrolled in 2014 compared to 2013 => less spaces
Good news: It really DEPENDS on majors. </p>
<p>So I compared btw 2013 and 2014 to find where does the number increase? It turns out, 200 more for school of engineering, and 100 more for school of letter and sciences. So if your major doesn’t belong to one of those, you’re fine!</p>
<p>I checked my major also, and it really falls into same pattern: if many students enrolled in the previous years, UCLA will reduce their admission this year, and will increase next year. </p>
<p>Though it really wasted time, at least the statistics suggests that there maybe more spaces in my major this year 
at least I can calm down a little bit in the next 4 months. </p>
<p>Were you looking at two transfer enrollments or transfer enrollments & freshman enrollments?</p>
<p>I looked at transfer enrollment. I’m not sure if it’s right bc I didn’t consider freshman variable. And there’re many factors for admission as well…</p>
<p>Good point, there are tons of things they don’t publish like how many students transferred out or simply left.</p>
<p>I’d be curious to see how the two year previous freshman stats affect the transfer rate. I could see how a large freshman class would mean less space later on.</p>
<p>I don’t think ucla has freshman stats breaking down for each major. But I wonder if there is a separate quota for freshman and transfer? Bc everyone said transfers have the higher chance of getting in to Uc compared to others, there must be a reason or condition for it, for example the admission system? Maybe it’s not only bc the competition is much tougher btw freshmen. The system will red flag if the applicant has tap, so I guess similar things will happen if the applicant is a transfer student. </p>
<p>I know it doesn’t exist for freshman since they aren’t admitted to a major, however I can see how a large freshman class might mean less transfers later, just due to space.</p>
<p>Freshman and Transfers aren’t compared to each other for admission. There are so many freshman spots and a different amount of transfer spots. I don’t think they are even evaluated by the same people.</p>
<p>Yea that’s what I meant, different evaluated system! Bc of this reason, the number of freshmen enrolled won’t affect transfer rate much</p>
<p>True 2015 freshman won’t have any affect on 2015 transfers, but I’m thinking of the size of the 2013 class, and how that might affect it.</p>
<p>Yea, I can’t say more about it. But at least the comparison btw 2014 and 2013 works for some majors. Especially engineering majors, their admission and enrollment rates fluctuate remarkably from 2012 to 2014 </p>
<p>@luckie1367 @bizmlover</p>
<p>It’s worth noting that the California Master Plan For Higher Education of 1960 mandates that about one-third of the student body at each UC school be transfer students, so it’s unlikely that freshman admissions have any effect on transfer admissions since the most basic guidelines for transfer admissions are dictated by California state law. It’s my understanding, then, that the admissions processes don’t affect each other much, if at all.</p>
<p>Granted, they have to balance 2/3rds freshman admits with 1/3rd transfer admits, but if they admit too many freshman, for example, they’ll just accept fewer freshman next year, not fewer transfers, and vice versa with transfers.</p>
<p>The source: <a href=“http://ucop.edu/transfer-action-team/transfer-action-team-report-2014.pdf”>http://ucop.edu/transfer-action-team/transfer-action-team-report-2014.pdf</a></p>
<p>From page 38: </p>
<p>“The original California Master Plan expressed its expectations for UC’s
transfer enrollment in terms of the ratio between lower- and upper-division
students: It suggested that UC should focus on upper-division education,
with an undergraduate student body comprised of at least 60 percent upperdivision
students. To meet this ratio, it was assumed that UC would enroll
one-third of its new students as transfers. Underlying this goal, however, was
an assumption that incoming freshmen became upper-division students after
two years of enrollment. In fact, UC native freshmen now attain junior status
far more quickly through the application of AP and other college credit. As
a result, UC is able to attain and in fact surpass the desired upper-lower
division ratio while taking fewer transfers than were originally envisioned.
To be consistent with the spirit as well as the letter of the Master Plan, the
UC Commission on the Future (2011) revised the transfer enrollment goal,
restricting it to entering (new) students and applying a 2:1 ratio of freshmen
to juniors. (Put a different way, one-third—33 percent—of all new California
students should be CCC transfer students).”</p>
<p>Hi everyone!
I know I’m a bit late to this but I’m going to list my stats.
Major: Political Science
GPA: 4.00
Will complete IGETC by Spring 2015 and also have taken all the POLI Sci classes available at my community college.
ECs: Banana Republic factory store job (working 12-15 hrs per week), head on social media and presentations for a community group that advocates and provides resources for undocumented students/individuals. </p>
<p>I actually graduated from high school June 2014 so my first academic semester at the local community college was over the summer term (took 7 units and also worked). I placed into ENGL 120 and then petitioned for ENGL 123 successfully (despite the many warnings counselors gave me). I’m doing pretty well this fall semester, both despite my English class and despite enrolling in 17 units (3 of these were PE, so only 14 academic units). I realized in mid-October that my AP exam scores would count for 21 units (calculated off of TAP and various counselors I checked with). So then, I made the decision to submit UC apps this November, knowing that I could either take 19 units in the Spring or wait another year to apply (I checked everything multiple times and with multiple counselors to make sure that I was fulfilling all the requirements. Though I did come to the realization on my own that given how the numbers were working, I could potentially transfer to a UC sooner than I thought possible.) Now, I don’t know what my chances are looking like, but I know myself well enough to know that I would regret not sacrificing somethings (like working next semester) to successfully handle taking 19 units in an effort to transfer sooner. </p>
<p>Thanks @Cayton! That clears everything up!</p>
<p>@kindfine you have a good chance at UCSC, this time as a transfer, for Politics! Good luck!</p>
<p>@kindfine sorry I noticed you posted in a UCLA thread. You have a good chance at UCLA and UCB too.</p>
<p>@Cayton Wow Cayton, you’re really into UC transfer thread. it’s such a waste if you don’t do your research on the trend of transfer or its behavior or anything like that </p>
<p>Just came in to have a look around. Haven’t been here in a while.
@bomerr bomerr bomerr…
You have no idea why someone with a high GPA was rejected. They may be missing a pre-requisite, they may have taken a class out of sequence, they may have misjudged their unit count, there are so many variables, you can’t just jump on ECs as the reason. Esp in majors like engineering. </p>
<p>The UCs are more lenient re ECs with transfers, because as @fullload said, most transfers work and/or have family obligations. There are a few exceptions, like Haas, which insist you have killer ECs, but that’s the exception to the rule.</p>
<p>@indyk8</p>
<p>Taking a class out of sequence doesn’t affect your transfer unless it drops you below the 60 unit min. </p>
<p>From what I saw people with lower GPAs but more ECs more in other people with higher GPAs and little/no ECs. </p>
<p>^ That’s flat out wrong. There have been posts by people who take Calc 2 before Calc 1 and can never get Calc 1 credit at their CC which upsets their major prep if they need both Calc 1 & 2. Taking classes in sequence is very important to make sure you get credit for each class.</p>