<p>@lindyk8 sorry I just saw your previous posts. Why would would someone take Calc 2 and then Calc 1?</p>
<p>When did I say take take Calc 2 and then Calc 1? If I did that was a typo. </p>
<p>Yes you can go straight into Calc 2. !!! Math is a validation subject meaning at whatever level you test at you don’t have to worry about earlier ones, even if you never took them (with the exception of geometry).</p>
<p>CONGRATS!</p>
<p>All that worrying for nothing! B-) </p>
<p>@Chr1st1
You would need either both Calc 1 and Calc 2 or appropriate AP scores. </p>
<p>If the CCC placement test put you at Calc 2, that is the level you tested to. You’re fine. </p>
<p>@lindyk8
You gotta stop giving out bad advice. It’s not about what you think is logical, it’s about the system and the rules that are in place. </p>
<p>It doesn’t matter if someone placed into a higher math–which would be kinda weird anyways cuz most placement tests only go up to calc 1; although it would be possible for someone to get AP credit for Calc 1 at their CC but not at a UC. </p>
<p>Both calc 1 and 2 are both pre-reqs for the major so they both need to be completed. </p>
<p>@chr1st1 here is the UC math validation matrix that shows you do not need a lower math course if you have successfully completed, or place into, a higher one.
<a href=“University of California Counselors”>University of California Counselors;
<p>Placing into a higher course, by default, means you passed the earlier one. It is illogical if one, say, tests into Spanish 6 that they need to take Spanish 4. (Language is another validation subject)</p>
<p>@lindyk8 that is high school stuff </p>
<p>One other thing that makes the necessity of calc 1, if you test into calc 2, unfair and uneccessary: You start a CCC not sure of major. You test into Calc 2 and take it because you love math and why not? Then you pick your major, and lo and behold, you need to reach Calc 2, which you did! But it also mentions Calc 1 as the process to get there. Since you cannot take a math course out of sequence, you are now unable to get credit for Calc 1, even if you took it. By bomerr’s assessment, you would now be ineligible to apply to that major even if you were a math brainiac, because you tested into Calc 2 and bypassed calc 1.</p>
<p>They cannot create two sets of rules, and penalize the student who tested above a level and took the higher course.</p>
<p>@bomerr, I see, a high school student can test beyond the lower levels, but a community college student can’t. Got it.</p>
<p>@lindyk8 Exactly, that is an actual issue some students have ran into. e.g. Took AP English in HS, got low score, low score works at CC for credit to bypass 1st semester english course, student takes 2nd semester course, applies to UC and is ineligible because they never took the 1st semester course and the low AP score does not count as credit at the UC. </p>
<p>Although some school will allow taking a class out of sequence in order to meet admissions requirements.
In that case they would be eligible for transfer by pre-reqs but that subsequent course would not counted as unit credit by the UCs.</p>
<p>Bottom line is when it comes to sequenced courses such as Calc, Chemistry, Physics, English 1 and 2, and Accounting 1 and 2, etc. all courses need to be completed IF they are considered prerequisites. Unless the student has AP scores which transfer to the UCs. </p>
<p>well, I don’t know. I only know what the validation says regarding math and it would seem odd to have two sets of rules for different people. I know it messes up students in things like physics, chemistry or whatever. I was 100% agreeing with you on the math issue before I found the matrix. </p>
<p>But then, the question is what is the point of taking a math placement test at a CCC and going into that level, if it’s going to come back and bite you in the a** later when you try to transfer? Perhaps the best way is to contact the UC and ask. </p>
<p>RE the English you mentioned, english is not a validation subject. The others you mentioned aren’t either (Chemistry, Physics, Accounting 1 and 2) so they all need to be taken in sequence. You added Calc to that list, but that is in question.</p>
<p>@lindyk8 like I said it’s weird that his math placement test would allow skipping of calc 1 since most placement tests max out at placing students into calc 1. Likewise english tests goto the first non remedial english class and chemistry test skips the intro class but does not allow skipping general chemistry. </p>
<p>If he has AP scores tho then that would possibly allow bypassing calc 1. altho it’s a bad idea to do so unless his AP score transfers to the UCs as calc 1. </p>
<p>well, maybe he doesn’t have the facts straight and really placed into 1. But you know, you have made me think I really need to get an answer about how this matrix works. There’s also a big problem if people are testing at CCC levels and then get screwed later on. Actually, I’m glad we had this disagreement as it’s making me not so complacent about it now. 
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<p>edited: Not worth it.</p>
<p>@fullload
seriously? this is straight from what the UC folks said themselves.</p>
<p>They have a YouTube Channel, Some where in one of their videos on transferring they specifically talk about pre-requestives and out of course sequences. </p>
<p>thank you @bomerr! :x :x </p>
<p>@bomerr In regards to what you said about using AP credits for English credits, would a score of 4 on the AP English Lit exam allow me to skip straight to English 2 and still be okay for UC transfer?</p>
<p>@l20hndc it really depends on the UC and specific college/school/major (e.g. College of Engineering, etc).</p>
<p>@bomerr I applied as econ so pretty College of Letters and Science</p>
<p>@i20hndc <a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/APCreditLS.htm”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/APCreditLS.htm</a></p>
<p>looks like you would need a 4-5 but call just to be sure.</p>