That’s not been my experience.
And regarding start-ups being so equitable and then growing into big companies? What about all the gender inequality at places like Google?
RBF is beyond sexist.
@intparent: What’s RBF?
@veryhappy:
“Hopefully when these start ups grow into successful businesses and/or get swallowed up by corporate giants, the women who work there won’t find it is back to the corporate, all male crap.”
Note the hopefully, wasn’t making a blanket statement. Part of the problem with start ups is when they get bought, or when they get bigger, is they bring in ‘experienced’ people from other companies, and the culture changes to be like typical companies (and it isn’t just issues regarding women, there also is the loss of creativity that comes along with bureaucracy and so forth; there is a reason why most innovation does not happen in big companies). Google in some ways claims to be very unique, but they also have another problem, the geekocracy is not necessarily very supportive of women, either.
Resting B**** Face
Do men go around telling other men to smile? Does it even make sense to talk about RBF as applied to males? Seems to me men get to have any resting face they want without being attacked for it. Sexism.
^Exactly.
<<< Re post #47, in my experience, p*s get promoted, but b**s don’t.>>>
I remember a program manager that I had when I was in my 20s. I was scared to death of him because he was always yelling (thank goodness I managed to stay under his radar of rage!). He would turn beet-red during his rants. I highly doubt that a woman who behaved as he did would have been similarly promoted.
From the recent New Yorker . . .
Let’s turn the table around, shall we? I am a woman managing a team of 5 women and 7 men. They are all terrific – I often say that I have the best team in the entire company, and I this is true. I always try to be polite, professional and cheerful – they work very hard and need my support and encouragement rather than lecturing. However, I am also very blunt and unapologetic when things go wrong – I am paid for getting job done, not for making my team feel good. But let me tell y’all, it is ten times more difficult to manage women compared to men. Men take directions and criticism at face value and move on, they never look to be offended or find some hidden agenda. Women, on the other hand, need much more delicate handling and I have to think twice each time before I speak.
There is one golden rule I learnt a long time ago from my DH, also a business professional: you have to decide if you want to be right…or you want this to get done. This rule applies to both men and women alike, but it takes experience and wisdom to learn it and use effectively. There are many professional classes that help to foster effective business communication: meeting etiquette, giving effective performance feedback, conflict resolution, the art of persuasion and influence etc. As the time of the annual performance evaluations approaches, I see many of these seminars appearing on my business calendar.
Apparently Bradley Cooper announced he is going to start sharing his salary info with female co-stars.
That can be interpreted a couple of ways. The female stars need to insist their reps bring them the right offers and then not back down for wanting to be “liked.”
Apparently Grey’s Anatomy had a recent episode abut salary inequity.
I must admit I am confused by something. Lawrence herself didn’t sit at the table and do the negotiating; she had her “people” do it. I can understand that her people would be going back to her each time a new offer was presented and she gets to decide when the deal is good enough. So, technically, she’s the one who stopped negotiating too early.
But the point of having people do this for you is that they are more knowledgeable and better negotiators than you are. So I criticize her people for letting her agree to a not-as-good-as-she-could-have-gotten deal.
She needs a new agent.
She probably told them what her limits are and what she really wanted, though. And she set that too low. Maybe her limit should be “whatever my male co-star is making”, and then let his people do the work. 
Actually, I think her limit should be “whatever my male co-star is making, plus 20%.” She’s the real star.
I’m confused. I believe she is now one of the highest paid actors. I can see that she may have been underpaid when she signed on for Hunger Games, but then she rose fast.
The real sexism question is whether or not JL will now be considered difficult to work with.
Hollywood actors are really the wrong example for us little folk. None of us here who feel shorted is in a position where you work at random, with big-dog teams negotiating megamillion budgets, looking at Q factors, offering points back on revenue or a temporary higher title (“exec producer”) as part of a deal. And sometimes actors do take a lower-paid role to expand their image or preserve it, betting something else will later come from that. (The only comparable ongoing example for ordinary folks may be a consultant, who takes on that project for “the opportunity,” even if it pays a little less.)
And I guess I’m wincing a bit that it takes some glossy, media darling, a young and pretty woman, to grab the attention. (And grab our attention.) A “25-year-old (who) banked $52 million pre-tax over 12 months to be the best paid actress.”
None of that is an excuse to hide our heads in the sand or make excuses why women are paid less. But I think it shows how complex the inequity problem is and how we all play into it.
I know it’s rough. My mother and grandmother were in the business world, none of this is new to me. But I worry that we so easily blame sexism and dig no further. We worry about things like being called gossipy or perceived as “harsh.” Some seem to fear the B word. (Do men fear their B word?) I think we need to check how we all play into this.
Part of what bothered me about Cooper saying he’ll now share his salary info with female co-stars is it’s a bit paternalistic (at least, at face value.) The poor little dears need my help. Yes, it’s nice of him. But, Dang.
Saw this online today and figured this would be a good spot to share it:
http://punch.photoshelter.com/image/I0000eHEXGJ_wImQ
LOVE it. I just posted it to my Facebook page.
Hysterical!