Bet they are not amused at the proletariat chanting “KARMA”.
Amen. And it bears repeating:
"Does It Matter Where You Go To College? Some Context For The Admissions Scandal…
"All else being equal, highly selective colleges do seem to confer an income premium over nonselective colleges. But an individual’s choice of major, such as engineering, is a far more powerful factor in her eventual earnings than her choice of college.
If you have more specific dreams, the Ivy League holds a near monopoly over the Supreme Court.
CEOs, on the other hand, come from a broader mix of public and private institutions, with only 14 Ivy Leaguers among the top 100 companies in the U.S., according to a U.S. News & World Report analysis last year.
Meanwhile, many tech billionaires are better known as college dropouts."
Not that I’d recommend dropping out. But imagine risking so much for such a marginal gain. It’s almost as if status is all they have.
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@tomofboston… Whilst coming after them with torches and pitchforks on social media and CC
“Really? USC flag? Ooooooh”
Yup. They didn’t stop to lower the SC flag before heading off to the arraignment.
Understandable – was a hectic day.
https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/lori-loughlin-has-a-usc-trojans-flag-flying-outside-house/
If it bleeds, it leads (as they say in tv news)
Their USC flag should be at half mast or upside down!
There was thread here on CC started by a parent who was upset that a college counselor refused her as a client. Apparentlyt she expected the counselor to get her 1200 SAT/3.6 GPA student into Brown. Mom was highly insulted when the counselor said “no way”. CC was not too kind to that mom.
MODERATOR’S NOTE: No more mention of Phil Mickelson’s daughter, please.
MODERATOR’S NOTE:
I have to agree. Phil Mickelson and his daughters are not part of the scandal. There are enough moving parts (and hourly developments) that I ask that we not confuse the discussion. We’re at 118 pages in 2 days, and more than one poster has chimed in saying “I haven’t read all the posts, but…” So let’s not have a casual user swing by, read a few posts with names not involved, and draw the wrong conclusion.
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I think it’s sour grapes to exhibit this vitiriol over one’s child not gaining admittance. I’m part of a demographic that haven’t benefited from societal and generational advantages. I waste zero time worrying, complaining, or using it as an excuse for my lack of accomplishing a goal. My daughter lived her adolescence pursuing passions, being determined, and focused. She was a top student AND a top athlete. She was admitted to the school she coveted because they saw a mutual fit. I don’t believe one can deny another of something that was truly earned. And, this is what the protest are coming off as.
WE are not talking about students who were denied something that was “truly earned”.
Besides, there are THOUSANDS of deserving, EQUALLY accomplished students who are turned down by the most competitive colleges each year, NOT because they did not “DESERVE” to be accepted, but because there was not enough slots for all that DID “deserve” to be accepted.
@ShanFerg3 Brown and Columbia have good fencing programs. They have attracted students who’s parents were Olympian’s. You have to be very good to make teams like that. Congrats to your d. wherever she goes to school. It’s a hard sport.
Athletes are not the problem in this case. Perhaps a little too much emphasis in the process but that should be addressed another day.
My d’s roommate is on women’s crew. They had double sessions during spring break and didn’t leave campus. Yes it helps many get in when they might not have, but they earn every penny.
I don’t feel bad for Loughlin’s kids. They went to USC to mingle with other rich kids and have fun, not because they were seeking a high caliber education. That’s why the parents didn’t want them at ASU; USC was the fancy summer camp (now college) where the other rich kids go, not ASU. Olivia Jade was on a UCS friend’s yacht in the Bahamas (father is a billionaire USC trustee), when news of this broke. I’m not saying that USC doesn’t offer a high quality education, but that’s not what I think this family was seeking by sending them there.
@iaparent Could be possible but likely isn’t. Most very good ( top 5%) athletes know each other ( in the same division) since they compete against each other for years. Yes, they don’t know everyone but in many sports there are online sites which collect data ( whether you want them to or not). My kids have online videos in a particular sport ( we/they never agreed) You can see the score, the actual event and ranks. As they move up in level there is even more detail. All the schools have twitter ( with photo feeds) and many have other things as well.
Parents knew, kids knew and if they didn’t there is very little chance they could have applied and not seen bogus scores.
“Athletes are not the problem in this case”
exactly!! this case is about students who were NOT athletes, but whose parents, a corrupt college counselor, and numerous greedy, corrupt athletic coaches made them LOOK like they were athletes.
@jym626 — to clarify, the reason I think that, the reason I said it, is because I was told that by a college admissions director at an information session for parents. He said (in response to my question about whether it was necessary to hire a consultant), that the reason NOT to hire consultants is that admissions officers can tell when an applications is written by someone other than a student. I took that to mean it happens pretty commonly. It sounds like you’ve had personal experience of it not happening. But the perception, at least, is out there, and to my way of thinking that is reason enough to avoid them.
Lawsuit begins:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/us/college-admissions-scheme-lawsuit-class-action/index.html
“Athletes are not the problem in this case.”
Kids with real LDs getting accommodations are not the problem in this case either.