There is a difference between cyberstalking (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/cyberstalking) and accessing publicly available information on the web. No one on this message board is cyberstalking the family.
Not sure I agree. One had to research to find the mom’s name, open her facebook page, etc. It may be considered gathering information, or doxing. (And yes, referencing her HS and the puppy was to make a point) But enjoy. They aren’t being showy. They are posting their life. If others don’t like it, don’t look. They should tighten up their security though.
Yes, jym, you enjoy, too! :))
Nope. Not interested. I am outraged by the criminal act of the father, which potentially affected some of us more than others (and the tacky refrigerator). Not bothered by their travels, their lifestyle, her educational pursuits at sea or their puppy. But whatever. Point was apparently missed. Their address and phone # is also available on the internet, but that would be equally inappropriate to discuss or share.
I’d consider having your home featured in a magazine at least a bit showy.
It’s possible they got a discount from the contractor for agreeing to do that. Might’ve been quite reasonable. Don’t happen to like their taste. Have seen others I’d consider showy.
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There is no clear indication that she got the HOPE scholarship, but rather it seems she “just” got instate tuition (which is about an 18K difference per year between in/OOS, and those numbers line up with his restitution)
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true. I thought the same thing. Actually, I would think that the fact that they hadn’t asked for HOPE was a bit of a red flag. GA residents know about HOPE…lol.
But, sometimes DAs keep things close to the vest, and since they seem to be insisting on really going after this family, more than they did that other Georgia undocumented student 5 years ago, there may be more to this story. Don’t know what else there could be.
That undocumented student was not required to pay back the OOS rates…and the charges were dropped.
While some may say, “but this VA family has money,” I don’t think that should matter. If they’re not going to press charges in that other case (nor make her pay back the school), then they’re treating US citizens worse than undocumented people. Don’t think that is really fair.
The point that keeps being made is that the VA family cheated the GA state school out of money. Well…
My state is becoming increasingly strict about pursuing unemployment insurance, food stamp, and worker’s comp “fraud” cases, many of which probably involve people who made honest mistakes in following the often-complicated rules. I have no issue with Georgia going after this parent, who I’m sure knew exactly what he was doing.
Yes, M2KC, it makes one raise an eyebrow when one sees prosecutors going after one student (plus family) and in the same breath dropping charges against an undocumented student who equally told a false story to get a tuition benefit. Oh, of course the reason for giving a break to the undocumented student was sympathy. I see that. But the law is not supposed to bestow sympathy inconsistently, or favor another person whom is similarly situated to others, whom it treated differently. Don’t misunderstand me. The Virginia family needs to be prosecuted. The undocumented student should have similarly faced some kind of sanction for lying.
If I recall correctly, at the time (2010ish) the GA college application did not have a clear distinction or policy in the law addressing undocumented status. So the Jessica Colotl case became grist for legislative change, and a bill was passed making it IIRC, illegal for undocumented students to attend the top, competitive state schools, and if they were admitted to another instate school, they had to pay OOS tuition. There was a recent bill submitted to allow instate tuition for undocumenteds but I do not recall rhe outcome. http://college.usatoday.com/2015/02/19/georgia-bill-would-lower-tuition-increase-college-access-for-undocumented-students/
Jessica Colotl attended a GA hs and lived instate since age 10. It all came to light when after being ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic she lied about her drivers license, address and alien status (iirc) . She was going to be deported but the case went viral. IIRC the board of regents did not tighten its policy about requiring undocumenteds to pay OOS tuition until a year after she started college, so this may have been a loophole. It’s a different situation than the VA guy knowingly and purposely deceived the school. Though maybe Jessica Colotl should have been required to repay the difference between in/out of state tuition.
Why do I get the feeling that if the UVA family were undocumented living in VA and wrongly sending their kid to UGA, there wouldnt be any charges or demands for money.
the school or state seems to have a real ax to grind with this family, that’s why I think something else is going to turn up in the story.
They may have prosecuted others but not made much of it.
For a family that can afford it and still tries to steal from GA, they might want to make a showier case, you know, a lesson for the others. It’s also harder for people to feel the same degree of sympathy for moderately well off people as they/we might for a family of more modest means.
I think the fact that other schools have contacted UGa asking, “hey, how did you uncover the scam,” suggests (to me) that schools aren’t good at uncovering this…likely because they don’t have the resources to do so.
While it’s not the same thing, we all know that if an NCP parent and a CP parent live within the same area, etc, no one is checking really to see how many nights a kid spends in one house vs the other…so often people do (falsely) claim the lower income parent on FAFSA to get more aid.
HOPE and Zell Miller do not have an application, but they do require submitting high school transcripts and FAFSA to the state. I could see why this family might not have wanted to do either of those.
Let me fix that for you. If it was a rich undocumented family, I think there would be similar backlash. If it was a poor documented family, I don’t think there would be similar backlash.
In short, people hate when the rich scam to get richer. Citizenship status doesn’t matter.
You don’t need to “fix” anything for me. lol
I don’t think there would be a similar backlash no matter what.
I know of no evidence that this family is rich. Where has that been demonstrated?
People hate scamming in all of its forms.
Where did it say other stTes wanted to know how they caught the UGA cheaters? I must have overlooked that.
I don’t know of any poor family’s kitchens being featured in magazines.
@erin’s dad Surely you aren’t suggesting that there are only two extremes…rich people and poor people.
I never took you for the type who puts people into two categories…RICH…or poor.
I know many “non rich” people with fabulous kitchens. The VA mom works in Interior Design. Not surprising that she’d have a magazine-quality kitchen, but that doesn’t mean that they’re rich.
I haven’t seen any evidence that this family is rich. Do I think that they may be upper-middle class? Yes. But rich? I haven’t seen evidence of them being RICH.