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<p>Because there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that events played out as you think they did based on the evidence. I asked you to provide a sequence on events that fit the narrative you’ve spouted since the beginning that is supported by the forensic evidence, yet you neatly avoided doing so. If you’re so convinced, support your position with the forensics.</p>
<p>Emotion precludes many from considering scientific evidence. It’s human nature, to some extent. I WANT it to be so, therefore I arrange my thinking around the evidence. We have all been guilty of it, I am sure, at some point, but in this case I don’t get it. Defending the actions of MB does nothing for the millions of young black men who are smart enough to avoid being in a situation like this. And just because I believe this, doesn’t mean I think ALL cops are infallible and should never be questioned. The two thoughts can co exist in my brain, and I would guess the same for MOST rational people. This divide between communities must be addressed, but please…pick another rallying point. MB is not the prodigal son for this cause. </p>
<p>I think putting those cameras on cops is a great idea. Also, 100% of high school students should have to watch the Chris Rock video on how to deal with police. </p>
<p>If all we know about a juror is that he/she is white- and from that information we conclude that the juror will side with the person who is white, then how is that not unacceptably dehumanizing?</p>
<p>I haven’t been online much lately, so I have not read this whole thread yet. I did want to clarify something about the grand jury. There is no “Ferguson Grand Jury”. The grand jury represents all of Saint Louis County. The racial make-up for the county as a whole is a little different than that of Ferguson.</p>
<p>That could be a source of painful feelings for Ferguson residents if they feel their interests were not represented, and that should be addressed. However, I don’t think it can be assumed to know how a person will vote according to their race. </p>
<p>No indictment on Staten Island. I don’t even know what to say. This is incomprehensible. I feel like I am going to faint. </p>
<p>I haven’t read the entire thread, but I would like to make several comments. First off, I don’t think that MB is the poster child of innocence. Having said that, I don’t believe Office Wilson’s testimony either. I have a VERY hard time believing that Wilson politely asked those two young men to get off the street. In all likelihood, he told them to get the f*** off the street. Nor do I believe his testimony about MB asking his friend to hold the stolen cigars so that he could have both hands free. Have you read his sworn statement/testimony? IMO, it ventures into fantasy land at times. If Officer Wilson lied about the two aforementioned things, what else did he lie about? If you are willing to alter what actually was said while giving a sworn statement/testifying, what else would you lie about? I would have believed him much more if he had actually said in his testimony that he told the young men to get the **** off the street. He would have been much more credible in my mind. It boils down to trust. If you can’t trust several parts of a statement, how can you blindly trust all the other parts of his statement that may ‘fit’ with the scenario presented? </p>
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<p>Oh, no. I promised myself I wasn’t going to read this thread any more - but I just saw this. Oh, no…</p>
<p>Cops don’t get indicted. Doesn’t matter what the evidence is. They apparently have free reign to kill anyone they want for any reason. </p>
<p>Yep. I saw that today. Hadn’t known about it til this thread.</p>
<p>Color me unsurprised. We have such a huge problem in this country and we are not going to get out of this without a lot more pain. </p>
<p>good luck to those in staten island. Stay safe. </p>
<p>The moral certainty apparent in some of these posts points to a failure of our supposedly liberal education. A class in rhetoric forces you to give consideration to opposing views before dismissing them as idiotic and resorting to caps lock.</p>
<p>Our social system is designed to teach total submission in the face of authority and complete faith in the integrity of the people in charge of our judicial process. It uses average citizens to teach and enforce the mandatory submissiveness and unquestioning patriotism. How many perceived breaches of integrity does it take before someone loses the faith? Why are people surprised when an authority figure reacts to what he feels is an inadequate amount of submissiveness (<a href=“http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2012317057_schene10m.html”>http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2012317057_schene10m.html</a>)? Why are citizens “knuckleheads” for demonstrating against a perceived injustice?</p>
<p>Really, like it or not, a free society needs its Harriet Tubmans and Ron Kovics.</p>
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<p>I do too. I can’t imagine how you feel being so close to where it happened.</p>
<p>It IS a totally different case from Ferguson and I truly thought it would be a no-brainer to get an indictment on this one. No words.</p>
<p>I am sad to hear about the Staten Island decision. I have read that the family has graciously requested no rioting. It is hard to discern the truth in both cases, however, in this case, the medical examiner’s determination of homicide and the use of a chokehold, as well as the police officer’s record to me was evidence against the policeman. I did not see where he could make a case of self defense. </p>
<p>To keep the discussions clear, I wonder if the discussion on Staten Island should be a new thread. These are two different cases, different cities and police forces. It is hard not to generalize but I don’t know if one is related to the other or they are both part of a larger problem. </p>
<p>I just don’t know, I really don’t know how this could be. It never crossed my mind that it would go this way. Not for one second.</p>
<p>^^ Agreed. Someone should start a new thread. The Staten Island case is way different than Ferguson…</p>
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<p>Are we going to need a thread for the 12-year-old with the fake gun too? :(</p>
<p>If not about differences, for reference. There are almost 1000 posts on this and someone might not know where the discussion on Staten Island begins once more posts are added. </p>