For fun: If this school was in the Northeast, it would be...

Parents Forum
101

<p>

</p>

<p>That would be supported by the per capita PhD production data, which I think is a VERY good measure of “geeky academic” orientation.</p>

<p>Carleton show up as #6, joined Swarthmore, Harvey Mudd, Reed, Oberlin, and Bryn Mawr as the other small undergrad schools in the top 10 overall.</p>

102

<p>I think Rice is a Brown/U Penn blend, if that is allowed. I also think that Davidson has a more religious overtone to it than Williams, but both have the small town “charm”. What schools do you equate with Wesleyan (Ct) and Haverford?</p>

103

<p>I gotta go with the obvious: Ohio Wesleyan for both Wesleyan and Haverford.</p>

104

<p>Haha. It seems Ohio Wesleyan is more about balance (academic, political, athletic and social) than Wesleyan in CT. Plus it is far more internationally diverse than Wesleyan or Haverford. I’d say if it were in the Northeast, it’d be more like Colby or Middlebury. Though I hear on the queerness scale, it could be equated with Vassar. :))</p>

105

<p>You may have a point in terms of international students; it’s 10% for OWU; 7% for Wesleyan; 4% for Haverford:</p>

<p><a href=“Admission | Ohio Wesleyan University”>Admission | Ohio Wesleyan University;

<p><a href=“http://www.wesleyan.edu/about/profile.html[/url]”>http://www.wesleyan.edu/about/profile.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.haverford.edu/admissions/home.html[/url]”>http://www.haverford.edu/admissions/home.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>In terms of sports, Wesleyan has 29 varsity teams (23 for OWU); 14 club sports teams; 13 intramural sports teams and about 28% of the student body participates in intercollegiate sports each year.</p>

<p>At much smaller Haverford, the percent of varsity participation shoots up to the 40% mark in about 22 sports:
<a href=“http://www.haverford.edu/athletics/varsityteams.htm[/url]”>http://www.haverford.edu/athletics/varsityteams.htm&lt;/a&gt;
It was hard finding comparable percentages for OWU, but, I’d say, from looking at their website, they do take a lot of pride in winning things:
<a href=“Admission | Ohio Wesleyan University”>Admission | Ohio Wesleyan University;

106

<p>International Diversity:
Ohio Wesleyan appears to have international students around 12% (<a href=“http://www.pmc.edu/about/ranking/2004/international.html[/url]”>http://www.pmc.edu/about/ranking/2004/international.html&lt;/a&gt;, whereas Wesleyan has 6%. For colleges of that size (though I’d argue Wesleyan is the size of an university than a small liberal arts college that’s significant). I noticed that OWU was actually one of the very few liberal arts colleges to actively recruit internationally at international high school visits. This is usually done by the Ivies…so I guess it is an issue of international commitment. Seems that from the list of schools among liberal arts colleges, only Mount Holyoke and Macalester are more diverse. </p>

<p>Athletics:
33% of OWU students participate in intercollegiate athletics:
<a href=“Admission | Ohio Wesleyan University”>Admission | Ohio Wesleyan University;
So, the number is somewhere between Wesleyan’s and Haverford’s. Don’t look at the number of clubs because absolute numbers are misleading given the difference in college sizes. </p>

<p>Political Leanings: </p>

<p>Political leanings of students: </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsname=Wikipedia+Images&dekey=OhioFivePolitical.jpg&gwp=8[/url]”>http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsname=Wikipedia+Images&dekey=OhioFivePolitical.jpg&gwp=8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Most liberal college from the Ohio Five schools after Oberlin, but certainly less liberal than CT’s Wesleyan. My guess is that it is probably less liberal than Haverford as well.</p>

107

<p>The 2005 OWU ranking is, 10% internationals–but, why quibble? By any reckoning, OWU has a healthy foreign student population.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.pmc.edu/about/ranking/2005/international.html[/url]”>http://www.pmc.edu/about/ranking/2005/international.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And it’s the <em>third</em> most liberal NCAC member, after Oberlin and Kenyon. In any event, I think it’s safe to assume that if OWU were suddenly taken out of Ohio and transported to almost any place on the Eastern Seaboard (with the possible exception of Virginia and North Carolina), the applicant pool from which it would draw would be a tad more liberal than the one it draws from now. :)</p>

108

<p>dont know if its been said yet, but</p>

<p>UVA <-> Cornell</p>

109

<p>I think this game is just a little out there…as in isn’t this for the obsessed people?</p>

110

<p>closest northeast LAC to Carleton??? I’d vote for Bowdoin I think, though the kids are a little more laid-back and loose at Carleton.</p>

111

<p>SR6622, while on one level this is just a game, it also is useful in pointing out–and I say this as a parent who sent his D across country to a school in the Northeast–that there are many perfectly good schools <em>not</em> in the Northeast, the Northeast schools often extracting a premium in a) admissions standards and b) dollars.</p>

112

<p>IT&T Tech would still be IT&T Tech</p>

<p>U of Phoenix would still be U of Phoenix</p>

113

<p>Actually, I think it is a very helpful and interesting thread (thanks Carolyn for starting it) because it gives information about a school that is not the black and white stuff in a guidebook but is more the “flavor” of the school that sometimes can’t be put into words. It also is helpful for those making up their college lists because if they find a particular school that is appealing to them and fits their criteria and stats, and someone has compared it to being similar to another school on this thread, it might give them an idea to go check it out if they are looking for more schools that “fit” them. Also, it helps for those people who are only familiar with schools in their own region (admittedly I know the eastern US schools the best) to get an idea about other schools elsewhere and what they are like and which schools they are comparable to that I already know about. </p>

<p>Susan</p>

114

<br>

<br>

<p>Well, sr6622, then it’s just the game for you. With over 400 posts in your three months on CC, I’d say you are one of the obsessed.</p>

115

<p>“Well, sr6622, then it’s just the game for you. With over 400 posts in your three months on CC, I’d say you are one of the obsessed.”</p>

<p>So, I welcome you to the club! :D</p>

116

<p>Berkeley would be a mixture of Yale, Harvard, and MIT.</p>

117

<p>How about Southern Methodist? My sense is that it would be a larger Trinity College in CT. Any thoughts?</p>

118

<p>Since Oberlin is moving to the northeast, perhaps Pitzer could move east and become Oberlin. Perhaps WashU/St.L could become Brandeis. Colorado might become Syracuse. Could UC Davis downsize and become Cornell?</p>

119

<p>NO - Kenyon would be Trinity.
St. John’s would be St. John’s.
And Duke would definitely not be Yale.</p>

120

<p>This thread is a lot more amusing than I thought it would be: thanks, Carolyn.</p>

<p>“If the Queen had balls, she’d be the King.”</p>