<p>I know how they feel- I may not see my exes- but Murphy’s law says that the day I go to the grocery store with dirty hair and two different shoes will be the day I run into one. ( or whats worse- run into my MIL)</p>
<p>Some celebrities are just people, some aren’t. I can’t say that Lucille Ball was “just people,” but maybe I was just star struck. On the other hand, yeah, the rockers that I saw up close and Jane Fonda were not especially “star” in person. Strangely Jimmy Carter and Bob Dole were both more impressive in person than on the teevee. I hear that Clinton is similar, although I’ve never met him. Reagan was as charming in person as he was in the press – charismatic either place.</p>
<p>(Lest you think I’m trying to show off, I had a brief career as a photographer and journalist. Other than one friend who used to be a teevee star that I do theater projects with, I now live in a vast sea of anonymity.)</p>
<p>EDITED: I looked at the “celebrities without makeup” page. It’s easy to make someone look bad for 1/60 of a second. For what it’s worth, Halle Berry and Emma Thompson both look just as good in all their photos, made up or not.</p>
<p>EDITED AGAIN: Leal, about your male friends – how do you know they aren’t sexually interested in you? Lack of signs of interest doesn’t mean no interest…</p>
<p>Yeah, I agree. I’ve met quite a number of celebrities (rock stars)</p>
<p>Mike McCready ( Pearl Jam) is one of the friendliest guys I’ve ever met- has a huge reputation for being down to earth and accessible as well.</p>
<p>I would agree w Washdad that while celebrities are “just people” some are way more attractive than the average bear- It would be pretty hard to make Halle Berry look bad.</p>
<p>( washdad- do you know Greg Palmer? he is very nice too & talented- I ran into him at Costco and really wanted to let him know how much I have enjoyed his work over the years, but he was with his son who was having kind of a hard time- so I just said hi)</p>
<p>True. They’ve never showed it and never so much as flirted.The one friend in particular, I’ve known for 27 years, and he’s been married to and divorced both of my 2 best friends, and we talk on the phone occasionally about his relationships, life, music, politics, etc. and he has NEVER said anything inappropriate towards me at all. So, if there is sexual interest there, he has never shown it. He’s like a brother, and I truly believe he thinks of me as a sister.</p>
<p>otoh, I have had experiences with other male friends who DID develop a crush on me. One, I believe, actually had quite a thing going for me. But, I could tell. It was really obvious. I was able to ‘just be friends’ but evidently he wasn’t. I’m very careful with male friends since that experience.</p>
<p>I checked the stars without make-up link; I’ve heard of fewer than half of them. Of course, I’m middle age and don’t have any television reception and have never used make-up – unless soap and water counts.</p>
<p>I think we are * all middle aged* I mean if we have kids to be thinking about college- I hope we are ;)</p>
<p>I like wearing makeup & taking care of my skin- I just don’t like to take the time to put it on right & my magnifying mirror now has has to be 30X for me to see anything- I have a fear of being one of those old ladies with circles of rouge like Bette Davis in Whatever happened to Baby Jane? :eek:</p>
<p>Although that also brings me back on topic- when you have suffered a disappointment- take care of your self.</p>
<p>Get a haircut- or wear your hair different- get a massage or get an eyeliner lesson- I think sometimes we hold onto certain parts of our selves that we were ready to let go of, because our sig others liked it.
Use the opportunity to do something different- take a salsa class or learn how to make brioche ( and bring enough for me)</p>
<p>I live in Southern Cal but haven’t met any stars. I saw Raquel Welch in LAX once but actually wouldn’t have noticed her if the ticket agent hadn’t have pointed her out - she was just dressed normally in jeans (still looked good though).</p>
<p>My D met Don Cheadle and Kareem Abdul Jabaar at a book fair at UCLA. She got them both to sign books for her. That was kind of cool.</p>
<p>Peter Gabriel (My #1 artist in the world. Quite the gentleman - he actually sought us out when he learned we were with a local grassroots human rights group!)
Mick Ronson (the late, former guitarist for David Bowie, and Mott the Hoople) - quite bold - he kissed me in front of my boyfriend!
Burke Shelley (bassist for Budgie - he did the same thing!)
Talking Heads (David Byrne was a bit eccentric, but Martina talked to us for more than 10 minutes.)
UFO (My guitar hero, Michael Schenker, was either wasted or just shy because he didn’t speak very good English - probably both)
Scorpions (met them several times, attended a concert from backstage, had dinner with them… Klaus Meine is really, really nice, and his wife Gabi was so friendly…she recognized me months later and noticed I cut my hair, etc. which really surprised me. I gave a ride to Herman Rarebell in my car.)
Judas Priest (Not as friendly as the Scorps, but in all fairness they’d just gotten off the plane.)
Blue Oyster Cult (Buck Dharma was quite the flirt)
Shawn Phillips (the male friend I mentioned in the earlier post is still good friends with Shawn. We met Shawn at the same time. Wonderful person.)
Sonata Arctica (This was more recent. My son and I met them after a small club gig. Very friendly.)
Alexi Liho (Children of Bodom - also recent. Contrary to his onstage persona, he’s a really nice guy.)
AFI (Also recently. Son & I met Adam.)</p>
<p>Check out [Lost</a> and Found Lovers - Home Page](<a href=“http://www.lostlovers.com%5DLost”>http://www.lostlovers.com) to see some folks who got back together again after a very long time. The last couple featured in the photo gallery had not seen each other for 65 years when they reconnected.</p>
<p>No. I had a boyfriend in the music business. I had plenty of opportunity to be a groupie, though. I think the groupie lifetime must have been an alternate timeline (you know, like on Start Trek?).</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments, they are very interesting. The case here is not exactly of a broken relationship, more of very strong (and on his side, unrequited but awknowledged) feelings that have lasted around 5 years now. Being friends isn’t an option at this point, though we do cross paths occasionally after contact has been cut off (small college town). I am interested in advice on how to leave the baggage behind, and some of your suggestions have been helpful, but the case is a pathetic one. Haven’t meet anyone else remotely as interesting.</p>
<p>Even when the person does not love you, it is surprisingly difficult to forget about it even when you do not see him/her on a daily basis.</p>
<p>I know a lot of people will be very critical of this view, but I truly believe that people can’t have deep friendships with the opposite sex when they are in a relationship. I would never do it, and I wouldn’t want it done to me. I have also met a number of people who, although they may accept it are still deep down not comfortable with it. And it doesn’t all have to do with jealosy like many people think. I don’t think it’s wrong to be the only man/woman in your partner’s life. It has worked for me at least.</p>
<p>I don’t have “deep” opposite sex friendships since I am married. I have friends that are men & we will chat or maybe even go out to lunch- and I enjoy talking to some of the men in my college classes ( although I spend more time talking to the instructors- they are more my age anyway - although I do like giving the kids who are my older daughters age- romantic advice )</p>
<p>But even say talking to the instructor- we could have a great time talking after class about something that we are both interested in- and maybe even walk over and get some coffee ( gotta keep that caffiene level high)
but I don’t know if I am reading too much into it- but for instance especially with one instructor- that I have rapport with- neither one of us has ever remotely said or done anything that could be even taken as flirting ( except by the Taliban), but still you pick up “flicks of interest”-.</p>
<p>However- I have no intention of going beyond that -and neither do they.
Still the * married- not dead* confirmation is nice.
But I think for me- I don’t even want to go there-</p>
<p>As for getting over an - old flame, you could try what some do to ease their nervousness in front of an audience- they picture them doing something really ridiculous.</p>
<p>You could picture him doing something- that you would have a hard time with- campaigning for Louis Farrakhan for instance or slapping your grandmother-
might work-</p>
( and bring enough for me)</p>
- although I do like giving the kids who are my older daughters age- romantic advice )</p>