<p>From the news…his confession…</p>
<p>“I did not want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life…she didn’t have any right. I went to her and hit her. She was scared, we argued, and she tried to escape. I grabbed her by the neck and hit her.”</p>
<p>Since she tried to escape and he stopped her, that suggests that she learned something that he didn’t want her telling.</p>
<p>He also just admitted to false imprisonment by preventing her from leaving.</p>
<p>From the Christian Science Monitor:</p>
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<p>He’s going to be tried in the US, too. So, whatever he gets in Peru, he’ll also get more years here.</p>
<p>The maximum sentence on the extortion count is 20 years in prison.</p>
<p>I doubt he’ll last long in prison. Something is wrong with that man. He is a psychopath with a terrible temper and no internal controls. It’s a shame that his father did not spend the time and money in having him put somewhere that could work on those areas as much as he did to keep him out of jail. </p>
<p>As much as I cannot stand the man, and as much sympathy I have with NH’s family, I did not think there was adequate evidence to hold him for the murder. The harassment he got because of the suspicion but inadequate proof was really not right. But his family should have known well by then that they had an out of control young man there that was headed right for a murder charge. He gave me the chills just from the things I read about him back during the NH case. He was clearly a very dangerous person. Now another young woman is dead.</p>
<p>I wonder what public opinion is in the Netherlands regarding Joran, his father, the Holloway case, and now this case.</p>
<p>cpt, I would not assume that the family did not try to get him some sort of help. I wonder if anyone could have helped him to control his urges, anger, etc. Frankly, I not only do I feel sorry for Stefany’s and Natalee’s family, but I feel sorry for Joran’s mother too.</p>
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<p>I do too. I can think of few (if any) things more horrifying than knowing that a child of mine had done something like this to another human being. I am not sure I would want to continue being alive.</p>
<p>"cpt, I would not assume that the family did not try to get him some sort of help. "</p>
<p>I agree. It is very difficult to help people with the problems that he appears to have. He also is an adult.</p>
<p>I feel very sorry for all of the families – including his-- who have been hurt by his actions.</p>
<p>Apparently he said she hit him and he was smoking pot…as if being stoned makes you murderous…and almost as if it was in self defense that he killed her. He really does have a screw loose. I don’t feel the least bit sorry for his family. They’re enablers.</p>
<p>There were a lot of cigarette butts in the hotel room. I think they’ll be able to tell if he was actually smoking pot. Either way, it’s unlikely that she would hit him for smoking pot. That doesn’t make sense.</p>
<p>And, yes, his parents were enablers. When he was in high school, he was allowed to live in the separate apt on their property…which allowed him to “come and go” as he pleased and be out at all hours of the night - gambling and drinking. Keep in mind that it was a school night for him the night when Natalee went missing. He had an exam to take then next morning (which was a Tuesday)</p>
<p>I think he was beyond being enabled. With his temper and his problems, he fits the mold of a serial killer or at very least a repeat killer. That is without assuming guilt in the NH case. He is just plain evil. No conscience. No regard for others. Very frightening that someone like this exists who has/d parents who were looking out for him. He really should have been committed to a mental institutel.</p>
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<p>I agree…But I don’t think he really had parents who were looking out for him. It seems to me that he was a “late in life” birth (maybe brothers are a lot older). Sometimes when that happens, parents get “tired of parenting” and get waayyy too lenient. He really had little to no supervision in high school. His mom would frequently go to Holland to visit her extended family for long stays and the dad wasn’t an adequate “hands on dad” at all.</p>
<p>Well I still do feel sorry for his mother, and I very little about her. I have no idea about what kind of help she or his father sought for him. I really do not think that being lenient, going out town, and not being as hands on as another family adds up to producing an adult who commits murder. I do agree with the poster who thinks, “he has a screw loose”. I doubt that anyone could “fix” a person like this, and we do not have 2 Jorans to see the outcome had he grown up in another household. I just think that there are people in our society who are evil, or are sick and this is not necessarily the fault of mom and dad.</p>
<p>If Joran’s mother and late father helped obstruct the investigation of NH’s disappearance (which is likely), this Peruvian girl’s blood is on their hands.</p>
<p>^^^^^I totally agree.</p>
<p>The case is on Nancy Grace show right now–10:00pm
They are going to discuss the confession he gave after a 7½ hr. interrogation.</p>
<p>There is now a discussion about 2 missing girls in another South American country (?) that Vander Sloot visited before Peru. They were reported missing from casinos! It might be Brazil. They are sending police to question him.</p>
<p>If he did kill NH and they were aware and covered it up then I have little sympathy for the Mom. If not then I do. </p>
<p>I don’t think it is always the case that bad parenting is responsible for all bad people. Some of the way we turn out is innate. I have a very dear friend who is the kindest person you can imagine who would do anything for anyone. Her adult daughter is and always has been the most extraordinarily self absorbed, self centered, person I have ever met. She has absolutely no empathy for others and treats he Mom quite terribly and has absolutely no regrets or even an inkling of conscience about the misery she causes her Mom but instead somehow manages to think she is the victim when she usually creates the horrible situations. I have actually though of her in terms of being a sociopath because of her complete inability to feel regret when she has devastated people’s lives. It is probably the wrong term because I don’t think she would kill someone - just rhetorically stabs them in the back. I, my kids, and all of my friend’s other friends are completely baffled about how that mother could possibly have produced that daughter.</p>
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I would rather be interrogated by the Peruvian police than watch Nancy Grace! Nails on a chalkboard - shudder!! But report back and tell me what they said.</p>
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Oh wow. Horrified, but not surprised.</p>