<p>wow, throwing your dead father under the bus…just another tidbit to round out his wonderful character.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Yes, it does sound like he will throw his dad under the bus if he thinks it will save his skin. </p>
<p>If any of it is true (the dad helping) then Aruba will be shaking in its boots for allowing itself to be misled by the dad.</p>
<p>Last night it was reported that the Peruvian girl found an email on Joran’s laptop linking him to Natalee’s murder. They didn’t say if the email incriminated him or maybe was about the extortion deal.</p>
<p>While watching the news, I saw a segment dealing with the extortion case. Apparently it is felt in some quarters (and was stated in comments afterwards on the web site) that the FBI bears some responsibility for the Flores murder, as they did not immediately arrest van der sloot when they had the chance. Wiring him the money possibly provided the means for Joran to travel to Peru and commit the murder.</p>
<p>Do you agree that the FBI shares in the blame here?</p>
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There are at least a couple of problems that he’s taken care of.</p>
<p>So his father killed Natalie Holloway and hid the body, and he was just there, had nothing to do with it. Boy, do I believe that one. As anyone would. </p>
<p>I think he was a very spoiled boy and young man, and that he has been pinched by the reduction of money which drove him to this stupidity of selling info about a death that he would have done well to shut up about. He was lucky enough that the evidence was insufficient and his family connected enough and able to get him the absolute best in defense on that case, so that he could not be charged. If he had an ounce of brains, he would have laid low and touched anything to do with the case. Something seriously wrong with this guy. Beating a woman after all of the world wide notoriety he had undergone, and killing her. Out of control. Frightening that there are these creatures out there under a veneer of respectability. I think it is the end of the line for him.</p>
<p>It is hard to believe that he will escape conviction for murdering the Flores woman, but I have seen very short sentences mentioned (6-12 years). Harsh jail conditions or not, he could be out by his early 30’s!</p>
<p>^^ read a wierd news report that if they nail him on theft aspect as well, it’s life.</p>
<p>*Apparently it is felt in some quarters (and was stated in comments afterwards on the web site) that the FBI bears some responsibility for the Flores murder, as they did not immediately arrest van der sloot when they had the chance. *</p>
<p>The FBI cannot just go into another country and arrest someone. (Could you imagine if someone from another country could come into the US and arrest you? Imagine what the Taliban would do if they could arrest people here.) The FBI has to get Aruba to do the arresting. The FBI has no authority in Aruba.</p>
<p>The FBI was working in conjunction with Aruban authorities on the sting. They could have arrested him at any time. Supposedly Aruban authorities warned the FBI that he was planning to leave the country but the FBI failed to act.</p>
<p>*They could have arrested him at any time. *</p>
<p>Who is “they”. The FBI could not arrest in another country. The Aruban police would have had to do it and then hand him over to the US. Yes, the Aruban gov’t, the Dutch Gov’t, and the US gov’t were all involved in the sting. But, the US could not walk up and arrest him in a foreign country. The US is not the World’s Police…they have to go thru proper channels…in this case, the Aruban police would have to do the arresting.</p>
<p>Foreign agencies cannot arrest in other countries.</p>
<p>The FBI is stuck on the Holloway case because her parents too are well to do and connected and are pounding on everyone to bring the killer to justice. They would not ordinarily be so involved in a case like this.</p>
<p>^^^^</p>
<p>True…but in this case, the Holloway family was able to use its own attorney, John Q Kelly to set the entire sting operations up, and then hand it over to the FBI, Aruba, and the Netherlands to formally execute. Most families don’t have the funds to do the legwork like that.</p>
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<p>Go to youtube and type in “rough justice for dealers peru” and there is a terrific documentary about life in a peru prison. </p>
<p>Unfortunately I think he might actually do okay there because he has boatloads of money and its all about the money in there. You can buy absolutely anything on the inside, and live like a king if you have money (and money gives you power).</p>
<p>I don’t think he has boatloads of money. His dad was a well paid judge, but once he died that money train ended…and whatever was left will be needed by his mom to live on. His mom will likely spend what she can on his defense, but she will likely run out of funds.</p>
<p>^ I hope you are right about that. I’ve not really followed it, other than general media hype which of course talks about his life of leisure from a wealthy background and all. I imagine though, compared to Peruvian convicts, he’ll have enough bucks from his mom or dad’s estate- or mom’s loans for that matter- to buy him the ‘apartment’ within the prison, buy is food tickets and other essentials and most importantly, pay for guards who will buy physical protection.</p>
<p>He does have 2 older brothers (who for some reason have managed to stay out of the limelight these last 5 years). If they are reasonably successful, they might be willing and able to provide some money as “protection”. </p>
<p>But, the description of the family as “wealthy” I think is a bit overblown in the media. He was more like upper middle class or maybe lower upper class. His mom wasn’t providing for him in recent months (his mom didn’t even know where he was). He was making money in the prostitution industry (essentially being a pimp in Holland), but became cash-poor at one point which made him fall for the sting operation.</p>
<p>I hear ya. It’s like how the media would refer to Ted Bundy as some brilliant genius…sensationalism.</p>
<p>Good info here…</p>
<p>[Holloway</a> attorney lured van der Sloot with $100 - TODAY People](<a href=“http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37635627/ns/today-today_people/]Holloway”>http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37635627/ns/today-today_people/)</p>
<p>BTW…his mom is a school teacher…so unlikely making much money.</p>
<p>He may have more money than the run-of-the-mill Peruvian criminal, but what about the typical Peruvian drug dealer who might be in the prison?</p>
<p>"I imagine though, compared to Peruvian convicts, he’ll have enough bucks from his mom or dad’s estate- or mom’s loans for that matter- to buy him the ‘apartment’ within the prison, buy is food tickets and other essentials and most importantly, pay for guards who will buy physical protection. "</p>
<p>That’s possible especially since the cost of living in Peru is low. However, people who cared about the woman he killed may be willing to pay prisoners to harm him, and guards to look the other way while that happens.</p>